Talk:United States Capitol shooting incident (1998)
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[edit] Article Note
This article is the creation following the AfD for the article for Special Agent John Gibson titled John Gibson (police officer). The concensus was heading in the direction of merging the articles for John Gibson, Jacob Chestnut into the Russell Eugene Weston article. I created this one which follows the titling precedent of the U.S. Capitol shooting incident (1954) article.
Please feel free to make additions to this article but please cite your sources. This article has the potential to be a Featured Article some day because of the amount of information out there relating its events.
If you have any questions, please feel free to drop me a line on my talk page. Cheers, Daysleeper47 14:38, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- I reckon we should probably rename it to 1998 U.S. Capitol shooting incident, and rename the other incident accordingly. Although not really a disaster, it's not far off either, certainly in terms of how to title it, so the naming convention developed by WP:DM] (which has, I beleive, since been adopted as official guidline) should be aplied. Comments? Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart - Receive My EviLove 21:56, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
- I am not truly opposed to renaming both, but let's hold off until these peer reviews and good article nomination clear before we start a new talk on renaming them. Would that be acceptable? Both the WP:Law Enforcement and WP:Congress participants will probably have some comments on renaming. Thanks! --Daysleeper47 15:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay replying; I forgot to watch the page and thought no response had come! It seems absolutly fine - in fact quite sensible - to wait until after the GA nom is through (Peer Review has finished by this time). By the way, for what it's worth, I don't see any problem with a see also section, despite the comment in the Peer Review. Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart - Receive My EviLove 20:57, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
- I am not truly opposed to renaming both, but let's hold off until these peer reviews and good article nomination clear before we start a new talk on renaming them. Would that be acceptable? Both the WP:Law Enforcement and WP:Congress participants will probably have some comments on renaming. Thanks! --Daysleeper47 15:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
A major cause of this crime is Montana State Mental Hospital's decision to release Mr. Weston and use Greyhound Therapy on him in which hospital personnel put him on a long distance bus and the problem disappears." See The Washington Post July 28, 1998, p. A6 article on the Weston Case. See also CNN Dec. 4, 1998 http://www.cnn.com/US/9812/04/weston.therapy/index.html referring to Greyhound Therapy.
Greyhound Therapy--putting mentally ill people on a long distance bus--to transfer them either to their family or to another State's mental hospital--seems to be a major form of therapy in America which failed in the Weston case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22 March 2007 (talk • contribs) 02:39
[edit] GA Passed
Congrats, this is now considered a Good Article! It could use some minor work, such as adding Wiki links to words in sentences. For example, 2007 in the lead, Rep. Tom Delay has is articled on Wikipedia, X-Ray machine, etc. These were not fatal flaws however. Keep up the good work. If these are improved, you may wish to consider it for review as a featured article. Nja247 (talk • contribs) 10:18, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Two issues
a) Is Weston "the shooter" or "the suspect"? The article as a whole states as fact that he was the shooter, but calls him "the suspect" twice. Probably need to standardise that.
b) Is there any actual biography on Chestnut? There's an uncited comment about a military past, but no actual biographical details as with Gibson. Shimgray | talk | 23:45, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
- Answer to your questions, I decided on using "suspect" because although there is no doubt that Weston is the shooter, he has not been charged or convicted of any crime (unfortunetly). Also, my research has turned up little on Chestnut beyond the standard "married with ** children". Gibson was well covered following the shooting so more is available. Another editor added the comment in Chestnut's original article, so I left it and added the "citation needed" template. Many thanks for the comments are the article. --Daysleeper47 12:34, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Covert Crowd Control Weapon
Weston claimed the reason he went to Washington was to try to see his congressmen to see if he could stop the "radio waves" from attacking him. This is an unusual claim. Mentally ill or not, the crowd control weapons were currently and still are in field testing in the USA. Motive to use thes microwave and ultrasound devices against Weston would be to increase support for expanded mental health programs. Anyone repeatedly attacked with these devices would suffer the mental effects of sleep depravation. Unfortuately, the reason he was not allowed to be put before a judge was his claim of being attacked by radio waves. This allows the possibility that continued attacks would occur in the mental hospital, literally causing a decrease in mental capacity. 71.114.163.55 07:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] GA Sweeps (kept)
This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, Ruslik 07:59, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Article name
Should this be moved to United States Capitol shooting incident (1998)? --Daysleeper47 (talk) 13:19, 7 April 2008 (UTC)