Talk:United States Automobile Club

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[edit] Cities of drivers

How does it improve the article to have every driver's town listed? Shouldn't someone use the wikilink to find out more about a driver? Royalbroil T : C 03:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Is there any reason why some of the towns are in bold and others aren't? DH85868993 (talk) 03:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal to breakout divisions into their own articles

I dislike how it is currently set up so each division has a section on this page. I think that each of them should have their own article. Then we could expand on the rules, specifications, and history of each division. This article should be about the sanctioning body only. Royalbroil T : C 03:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Where are the USAC historians

Just wondering where the USAC historians are? This site, along with all of the sites for tracks that used to host USAC Indy events (ie, Michigan International Speedway, are devoid of USAC history.Twohlford 08:07, 17 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Error with link with some driver

There is an errors with, minimum, two driver then I see in USAC Stock Car. I mean, the link with Butch Hartman (Champion "stock car" in 1971,1972,1973,1974,1976) send people to the actor Butch Hartman... It's a kind of weird when you read that the actor Butch Hartman is born in 1965, with mean then in 1971 he was 6 years old... Same kind of think with Don White (Champion "stock car" 1963) witch is link to the British Rugby man Donald Frederick White. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.51.229.113 (talk) 02:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:USAC-Logo.jpg

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BetacommandBot (talk) 07:15, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] CART/IRL split

The section on the CART/IRL split comes across as anti-IRL, presumably because it focused on incidents that reflect unfavorably on IRL/USAC. Except for the first sentence, CART isn't even mentioned at all in the section. Also, there is no discussion of either the cause or the mechanism of the split. 147.70.242.40 (talk) 22:44, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

The section does come down awful hard on USAC/IRL, but things were new and somewhat chaotic at the time. The section can't talk much about CART because they were separate entities. I agree that the section needs to focus on the split (and/or link to an article on the split if one exists) and then mention some of the problems after the split. Would you work on fixing it? I'll bring this discussion up at WikiProject American Open Wheel Racing for additional input. Royalbroil 00:46, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
As one of the guys who edited this section, I fail to see how this is anti-IRL. Given the sensitivities by some against saying ANYTHING bad about the IRL, I can see where some don't like this section. Perhaps the section should be re-titled "IRL sanctioning" and describe the USAC "sanctioning Help" of IRL events. Unfortuntately for the detractors, this means including mentioning of criticisms of USAC, up to and including the parting of the ways.Twohlford (talk) 18:10, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
I agree, I don't see anything objectionable in there. However, as the section isn't about the split (as it shouldn't be, this is an article about USAC), I think it should be entitled Sanctioning of IRL races, then a new section should be made to discuss USAC's current offerings. -68.31.49.201 (talk) 17:14, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
The problem with the section is not POV per se, but implications accuable from a lack of detail. The order to go to green in '97 was influenced more by the seemingly chronic American racing series desire to always end things under green-flag racing conditions; many of those involved with both IRL and USAC sanctioning bodies were against suddenly whipping it out, out of nowhere. And as for Texas, the detail is that USAC was blamed for Luyendyk's onboard timing and scoring device failing, but when sanctioning was completely transfered to IRL, the reality was the most of the people involved simply switched uniforms. --Chr.K. (talk) 08:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)