Talk:Uniramia

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What's the meaning of the name? The Jade Knight 23:32, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Uni-Single ramus-Branch perhaps... Shyamal 06:36, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Confusion regarding subphylum classification

Ive been poking around wikipedia regarding centipedes and particular house centipedes and im a bit confused. It seems like there must be an error somewhere, but I have no idea where the error is. The house centipede article lists the subphylum as Uniramia, stating it is a variety of centipede. In the Uniramia article it states the the subphylum contains hexapods and myriapods, including centipedes. However the centipede article lists the subphylum as myriapod with no mention of Uniramia as the subphylum at all. So im lest confused, what is the real subphylum of centipedes including the house centipede, myriapod or Uniramia, and is myriapod really a subcategory of Uniramia at all, or are they both subphylums. I'm completely confused, and thing this is a major mistake that might need fixing. Debeo Morium 07:50, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I guess that the Uniramia is an old subphylum that has since been replaced by the Myriapoda. If the house centipede article lists their subphylum as Uniramia it should probably be changed.--FUNKAMATIC (talk) 15:19, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Correct. Uniramia is an obsolete taxon. It should be replaced in all phylogenic trees by either Hexapoda (insects) or Myriapoda (centipedes and millipedes). Bob the Wikipedian, the Tree of Life WikiDragon (talk) 16:52, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

It has also been a Phylum and a clade name. I think the taxobox rank author must mention the right authority for the sense in which it was subphylum. Also this article really needs a history section. Someone with the required references ? Shyamal (talk) 05:06, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I made the taxobox. Let me see if I can't find an authority. Bob the Wikipedian, the Tree of Life WikiDragon (talk) 05:18, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I just found a chart with the old phylogenic taxon chart. I will update the taxobox now. Bob the Wikipedian, the Tree of Life WikiDragon (talk) 05:20, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

---o UNIRAMIA
   `-o LOBOPODA  
     |-- ONYCHOPHORA
     `--+?- †Cambropodus
        | ?-o †EUTHYCARCINOIDEA 
        |  `--†Euthycarcinida   
        |--o MYRIAPODA
        |  |-- CHILOPODA 
        |  `--o PROGONEATA
        |     |-SYMPHYLA
        |     `--+- PAUROPODA 
        |        | ?- †ARTHROPLEURIDA
        |        | ?- †ARCHIPOLYPODA
        |        `-- DIPLOPODA
        `--o HEXAPODA  
           |--o DIPLURA
           |--+--o PROTURA  
           |  `-- COLLEMBOLA ( springtails)  
           `--INSECTA (insects)

Like in the Fish article, I think the taxobox should be removed unless there is a way to indicate that this is not currently valid. Shyamal (talk) 05:45, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I'll move this phylogeny to the actual article, since it's no longer current. That's what's been done with the fish article, and I agree with you that this makes the most sense. Bob the Wikipedian, the Tree of Life WikiDragon (talk) 05:52, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Better? Bob the Wikipedian, the Tree of Life WikiDragon (talk) 06:41, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Much better, hope you know about the Template:clade. Also can do with more inline cites. Some of these references may be useful. Shyamal (talk) 08:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm confused as to what you're getting at now. As far as citations...I didn't write the article, only the phylogenic tree part (which was a taxobox I constructed), and I also added all the images. As far as the clades go, I tried it for the first time, and this is what I've come up with (see below)...what am I doing wrong? Bob the Wikipedian, the Tree of Life WikiDragon (talk) 23:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Here are two diagrams to illustrate the usage in the obsolete Phylum sense and the later Subphylum sense. Shyamal (talk) 03:00, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Chelicerata Arachnida Merostomata Pycnogonida Trilobitomorpha Uniramia Myriapoda Symphyla Chilopoda Diplopoda Hexapoda Entognatha Ectognatha Crustacea Uniramia as a Subphylum[1]

Uniramia Onychophora Hexapoda Myriapoda Crustacea Chelicerata S. M. Manton's (1973) polyphyletic Arthropod hypothesis with Uniramia as a Phylum.[2]

In that case, we need to include both cases in this article, since it has become a taxon-related history article. Bob the Wikipedian, the Tree of Life WikiDragon (talk) 03:03, 12 April 2008 (UTC)