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[edit] Anthem

Anyone know what anthem was used to represent the team when it won a gold? Ode to Joy, the Olympic Hymn, or something else? (I highly doubt either German national anthem was agreed upon) --Canuckguy 16:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

• The "Ode an die Freude" (Ode to Joy) by Ludwig van Beethoven was used Citius Altius Fortius 20:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] EUA

Just a remark the abbrevation EUA wasn't used in the time, when the United Team of Germany particpated at the Olympic Games, but GER.

EUA was established just recently... Citius Altius Fortius 20:59, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 1968

In 1968 an United Team of Germany participated, but the abbrevation FRG and GDR were introduced to seperate the results... Citius Altius Fortius 07:50, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what your reference is for this. In the official Games report (online here), you see some events in which athletes from both nations competed (e.g. rowing), which wouldn't be the case for a united team. (Also, the 1968 Games pre-dated the standardized country codes, so you'll see "ADE" and "ALE" in that report.) Andrwsc 15:19, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

We have to recognise that the "official Games report" is in French - the abbrevations which are used in that report are not the official abbrevations of the IOC of today - you can see that e.g at the abbrevation EUA, which was recently introduced by the IOC for the United Team of Germany, is used in the report for the USA!!! Citius Altius Fortius 07:01, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

No, the report from 1968 is in both English and French (as many of them are). And yes, I understand that the country codes used in 1968 are quite different from today - that's why I stated that the 1968 Games pre-dated the standardized country codes. You still haven't answered my question: why do you think there was a single United Team of Germany in 1968 when all evidence points to independent teams for East and West Germany? The "United Team" years were 1956-1964 only (three Olympiads). Andrwsc 16:59, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry - you got me wrong - I suppose I wasn't able to explain what I have meant accurate in English (cause it is not my first language) - in 1968 two teams started: FRG and the GDR, but at the ceremonies and medal ceremonies the flag of the United Team of Germany (black-red-gold with white olympic rings in the red band) and the "Ode an die Freude" was used...Citius Altius Fortius 10:23, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Did they march in as a single team, or separated? Apparently, in Mexico, "Grecia" (as usual) marched in first, then Afghanistan, Alemania, Algeria, Argentina, Australia and Austria are to be expected in Spanish alphabetical order [1]. In fact, Page 25 of the PDF file clearly shows Grecia and Afghanistan first in the top row, then a hardly recognizable flag, dark cross on white maybe, hardly the German. Then a large team dressed in light colours, then Alemania (on a three-sided curved sign) with ladies dressed in light color. The next row begins with a flag that could be the Antillas Neerlandesas, then Algeria, Argentina's flag, then Australia clearly identified before what must be Austria. Next row, countries with B. On page 24, the large color photo shows Grecia to one side of the flag, Alemania to the other, with ladies dressed in yellow. Yet, to the very left, there could also be Alemania, with orange dresses. Hmmm, at least no clearly designated "Alemania oriental". It seems that athletes in ceremonies wore different jackets, West light, East dark (blue?), each fitted with Black-Red-Gold plus the rings (page 91-92, 64, 351). Track and fields athletes from the West (ALE) wore the traditional white uniforms with a red chest ring (page 74, 81), while East (ADE) already was dressed in blue and white (page 80). Also, the team from the West is simply called Germany/Allemagne, p. 374 (p. 403 Grenoble). Page 502 says "In honor of the next celebration of the Games, the theme from Beethoven's Ninth Symphony was played — the same theme that had been used at the awards ceremonies whenever Germany or East Germany won a sports event."(curiously, the French version says "cinquieme", the dramatic 5th). -- Matthead ^discuß!     O       16:25, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I am also interested to see a source for this information, as it would make an excellent addition to this article and a couple of others. Andrwsc 16:35, 17 August 2007 (UTC)