Talk:Unfulfilled religious prophecies

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I am currently attempting to fix this article. It is now under a less POV name, and I am removing any uncited claims. EliminatorJR Talk 02:17, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

The End Times page still lists the link as "Unfulfilled historical predictions by Christians" Do all of those need to be changed manually, too? Psi overtake 10:55, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

It looks like someone redirected "Unfulfilled historical predictions by Christians" to this page. It is fixed, in other words. Some editor(s) had redirected many articles to Failed predictions, that originally went to "Unfulfilled historical predictions by Christians", due to the sentiment that it wasn't fair to single out a religious group for making false predictions, small parts of it may have been POV (biased), or there was also some need of cleanup and proper sources . (Although there were MANY sources sited most of which are the predictors own literature.) This article has the same basic content but has been cleaned up. Clicking on "what links here" in the left colum on the Failed predictions article reveals that all those links have been removed or fixed.Psysoph 10:22, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Place to move stuff out of the article

[edit] From Jehovah's Witness section

I moved this from the article to here. It is from the Jehovah's Witness section. The formatting is confusing. What is "kj"? An exact quote would be better for the last phrase. The author didn't seem careful enough to preview their work or use basic formating so I consider it dubious.

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Also from The Nations shall know that I am Jehovah - How? kj chap. 12 p. 216 "Until He Comes Who Has the Legal Right" 9 Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom

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Psysoph 10:22, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

I presume it refers to the King James Version of the Bible. Subsolar (talk) 01:04, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Why only christians, and christian derived groups

Why are all these groups Christian, or Christian derived. In order for the article to not be biased and meet NPOV, it needs to list prophecies by muslims, buddhists, hindus, jews, and other groups. Saksjn (talk) 21:57, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the Edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). . . dave souza, talk 00:05, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

I know that, I've been editing awhile. Personally I don't like this article and don't think it belongs in an encyclopedia. Therefore, at the present I do not wish to contribute to it. In the future I may change my mind, but for now, I don't wish to contribute to a non-encyclopedic article. Saksjn (talk) 13:55, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

I think the combination of text and tables is bad. Maybe it should instead be "List of xxx", ordered chronologically, with the text about particular religions distributed elsewhere. Subsolar (talk) 01:06, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Prophecies

I prophesize that this wikipedia page will only continue to grow exponentially. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brooklynxman (talk • contribs) 10:01, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Hopefully the above statement doesn't make it in the article. =) Saksjn (talk) 14:33, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Second coming

I've found myself in an edit war with another user in the Christianity section - it currently reads "prophecy regarding the return of Jesus Christ has been generally accepted but has not been fulfilled." This seems biased to me - it was not originally a prophecy that had a specific time-frame attached to it, so it is better to say "has not yet been fulfilled" (but without the emphasis, of course). Or deleted entirely - shouldn't this article be about prophecies that have passed their "used-by" date? StAnselm (talk) 11:52, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Just another comment - the lead paragraph specifically excludes "Bible prophecy", so the second coming paragraph really needs to go. StAnselm (talk) 11:55, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Latter Day Saints

Surely the claim that Joseph Smith was told he would see the Son of God if he lived to be 85 was not an unfulfilled prophecy, given that he didn't live to be 85? I'm going to remove it. As for the rest, the section itself says that 'this was never spelled out in his own revelation'.Tameamseo (talk) 23:44, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I'd call it doubly-unfulfilled. — Omegatron 00:43, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
No, it's clearly a conditional prophecy, and therefore does not belong. StAnselm (talk) 02:09, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Clearly not. — Omegatron 03:39, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, please don't revert it back until it has been resolved here. StAnselm (talk) 04:52, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Please don't revert war. The content stays in the article until someone gives a good reason why it shouldn't be there. — Omegatron 14:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
And Tameamseo has, but you haven't really produced an argument in favour of keeping it. StAnselm (talk) 19:44, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

There's no argument for removing it. The sections being removed discuss religious prophecies that were not fulfilled. If there's something in the article that prevents conditional prophecies from being included, that part of the article should be changed. — Omegatron 23:20, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree. The section could use a slight retooling but it is referenced three times and should stay.--Adamfinmo (talk) 06:29, 28 March 2008 (UTC)