Talk:Under Ash

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Removed unreferenced mention of 'Some' people. also removed the mention of antisemitic influence in the game. The plot is very against the Zionic occupation of Israel, but there is very little blind hatred (if any) towards the Jewish culture. AntiZionic is not the same as Antisemitic! One is against a culture, the other is opposed to a political power. I am Jewish and Antizionic, does that mean i am a self-hating Jew? No, because i have nothing to do with the atrocities being committed by the Israeli government, and choose to follow the peaceful lifestyle that my religion truly embodies.

Here's your fucking reference. http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/102406.htm#_Toc174854655 Kade (talk) 18:29, 20 April 2008 (UTC)


Removed the following paragraph as too POV.

The game has been criticized for being too hard, it is easy to be killed and if you shoot a civilian the game ends automaticly. In the end it's not even possible to echeive a victory.

Rholton 20:49, 21 Nov 2003 (UTC)

In what way is this "too POV"? // Liftarn

Sory for editing even I haven't found the game yet,I believe there is a way to get victory in that game just like any others,maybe you missed a nook or cranny,or a certain way.Some amateur games have this "if you don't do it this way you WONT finish it" syndrome.

I've never played Under Ash, but it sounds that Mr Qasmiyya is trying to say that, while it is possible to finish the game, it doesn't win any great victory. It doesn't have the "happy ending" that many other games have, no Palestinian Arab/binational state is founded and the Israeli occupation continues. Compare the ending to Freedom Fighters, where the object is to fight a fictional Soviet occupation of New York City. In that game, the player character can, on his own, kill enough Soviet soldiers to make the Soviet Union withdraw. Afkar Media does not intend to inspire people to fight to solve their problems. Tonyobrienuk 22:06, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Have you played AA?

"sometimes explained to be a response to how Arabs are pictured in computer games in general and America's Army in particular."

The enemy in AA is both white and black, as is the US forces, and the language of the enemy sounds more like Spanish than Arab.

--Reddox 16:16, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

That's what the sources say and that's what goes into the article. I also dubt AA would run on my old computer. // Liftarn