Talk:Umberto Nobile

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Both the nautrality and the factual accuracy of this article should be corrected.

Among several factual errors, the most glaring is the puzzling claim that no italian rescue attempt was launched. As a fact, Cpt.Gennaro Sora (of the Italian Army "Alpini" ski detachment) did run an over-ice sled attempt from the Città di Milano support ship, while Matteoda and Albertini (of the SUGAi - the Universitary Section of the Italian Alpine Club) did the same from the italian-hired ship Braganza. Two hydroaplanes were also sent from Italy, a Dornier Wal piloted by Luigi Penzo and a SIAI-Marchetti S.55 piloted by Ten.Col.Umberto Maddalena (who was the first rescurer to find the "Red Tent" survivors on June 20th).

Also the claim that Nobile after WW2 was undeservedly "smeared as a communist on the basis of 5 years spent working in Russia" is higly debatable, as it is a fact that in 1946 he was elected in the list of the Italian Communist Party (and by the way, he was elected to the Constitutional Assembly, and not to the Parliament as stated in the article).

About neutrality, the article is clearly inspired by a very pro-Nobile undertone, almost as if's only source had been a book by Nobile himself. Just to quote two elements, Nobile is presented as a victim of jelous collegues and of a quite unconvincingly (and unfortunately not documented) conspiracy theory centered about a Fascist Regime hostility against an allegedly anti-Fascist Nobile. It is a bit odd that the supposedly "jelous collegue" was nobody less than Gaetano Crocco, one of the greatest names of the Italian aeronautical science (who certainly had nothing to be jelous about Nobile!), and that the supposedly anti-Fascist Nobile ordered the "Italia" grammophone to play the Fascist song "Giovinezza" when while overflowing North Pole!

A further point to be stressed is that Nobile was not accused of any crime or "blame for the disaster" by any Military Tribunal (that nevertheless the author of the article claims, again without any supporting evidence, to have been "patently rigged"!!!) Nobile himself required that an "Honour Court" be assembled to clear his name by any blemish for having accepted to be rescued first from the ices. As that is exacltly what happened, the Court was not simpathetic with his point of view, but limited its verdict to a simple "censure", i.e. a relatively mild verdict for what appeared to many of his fellow officers as a full-fledged desertion case.

With all due respect to the author, some adjustement to this article should be advisable.

Itobo (talk) 23:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)With respect, it sounds like you have information which could have been added to the article itself, as I did. Instead of carping on the talk page, why not just edit the article?

The biggest concern I have is that the article lacks citations. It has a lot of work ahead. I've done what I can with the original material I have available.