Talk:Umbagog Lake

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Quick question: what does "wilderness lake" mean? That the lake's size and depth were "markedly increased" by a dam seems to go against the idea of "wild", no? Pfly 03:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

In this instance, I believe the term "wilderness lake" refers to the fact that the lake is very sparsely settled, situated far from built-up metropolitan areas, and supports a wide variety of wildlife. Large regions of northern New Hampshire & Maine can reasonably be classified as wilderness and the lake certainly rests within those regions.
One of the intentions of establishing the wildlife refuge there in the 1990s was to maintain the area as a "pristine wilderness" and prevent further development.
Just my 2 cents. Hope that helps. :)
--Northstar42 15:37, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name?

Is it "Lake Umbagog" or "Umbagog Lake"? The USGS seems to prefer the latter. [1] [2]
—wwoods 19:23, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

The DeLorme atlas of Maine agrees with the USGS -- Umbagog Lake. Being based in Maine, I'd think DeLorme would map the state well! And the copy I have is the 29th edition. Not too many pages link here, it shouldn't be too hard to do a page move and fix redirected links. Pfly 03:05, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Depth?

"Though it has an average depth of less than 15 feet, ... The lake's area and depth were markedly increased with the construction of a dam at Errol in the 1800s."

I can believe the dam "markedly increased" the lake's area, but the depth? How deep was it before?
—wwoods 16:31, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Unnecessary info

Some people spell the county "Coös", some "Coos", and it has even been spelled "Cohos" in the past. While it's of interest that the county commissioners like the diaeresis, it's of greater interest that the legal spelling of the name in New Hampshire law is "Coos". See NH RSA 22:11. Since this article is about Lake Umbagog and not Coos County, any variations in the spelling of the county name should be reflected not here but in the county article, where, in fact, it already is. Here, we should stick with the way the name is spelled in the relevant Wikipedia article and in New Hampshire law. Ultimately, the issue is whether to stick with an old-fashioned spelling, such as "Coös", "Merrimac", "Winnipeseogee", etc., or to maintain consistency with established statewide spelling. Any name-calling in responses will be duly factored into the weight and respect given them. --Ken Gallager (talk) 12:35, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Why should we stick to the way it is spelled in the relevant article and New Hampshire law, Ken? Why shouldn't it be spelled as the residents and governing body of the area commonly spell it? We live up here, you obviously don't. I can assure you that the proper spelling of our county name extends far beyond "just a newspaper and a few county vehicles". Why don't you check the first external link in the relevant Wikipedia article on Coös, the one for Coös County's Website. There you can see how the county government spells its own name. Are you a better source for information on the subject than they are? I submit that you are not. Furthermore, your citing of RSA 22:11 is far from definitive. That statute defines the geographical limits of the county, not the spelling of its name. 72.64.8.148 (talk) 14:06, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
All right, I'll let it go. This is clearly very important to you. I had seen the northnh.com website before and discounted it, since there is no official website for the county. I'm surprised, however, that you're not trying to change the spelling anywhere else. Happy editing, --Ken Gallager (talk) 14:55, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Ken, that's very big of you and I appreciate it. Thank you for all your other contributions to this project. 72.64.8.148 (talk) 16:28, 22 January 2008 (UTC)