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Contents 1 Keep or Merge 2 Thor's Appearence in Ultimate 3 Power Level 4 Overhaul 5 Costume

[edit] Keep or Merge

Don't merge this. The characters are different and merit their own articles.--GingerM 15:35, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

As with Ultimate Iron Man, Ultimate and 616 Thor are radically different, especially when compared with other Ultimate characters and their variations. This should definately be a seperate article. -- The Timeturner 02:05, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

I agree they are different characters in a different"universe". POTUS

Yes, they are, but that's true for all different versions of characters from differetn universes. The article should be merged, unless there's sufficient information relating only to Ultimate Thor to warrant a unique page. At present, this article could be condensced and merged.

This topic has already been discussed, debated, and closed. Please see the conversation at Talk:Thor (Marvel Comics)ThuranX 01:39, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

That's now been archived, so for reference, here's an updated link - outcome was No Merge. --Mrph 12:48, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thor's Appearence in Ultimate

Does anyone know if Ultimate Thor's look is based on James Hetfield of Metallica? Bryan Hitch has talked about basing some of the characters on real people before (i.e. Nick Fury = Sam Jackson). There are some panels where Thor really looks like Hetfield did in the '80s with long hair and moustache. Shinji nishizono 21:54, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Although I can understand your comparison, Hetfield's hair was, and is, much more curly, and his Lemmy inspried mustache is different than Thor's van Dyke style beard/stache... I WOULD like to know who he's based on, though. Your guess IS pretty good, I can't deny, but lacking a citation, let's not add anything on this topic to the article.ThuranX 22:20, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

• No worries, I was just curious really! You can see the resemblance in some pictures: Shinji nishizono 23:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

I think that, in some ocasions, Thor looks like Brad Pitt. Maybe he's based on him. It's just a guess, but perhaps i'm right

Has there been any mention of how/why the circles on his costume glow blue? --68.103.154.140 21:23, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Power Level

Should it be noted that Ultimate Thor's power level is significanlty lower then the classical one? Reasoning for this: Thor's humiliating fights against Hulk, Magneto, and Colossus. His getting trashed in the alternate reality by the Skrulls. His having to be hyped up before his take down scene. Statment that the Thing is the second strongest character. Finally, in a recent FF storyline a creature that went after the strongest being on the planet when after Ultimate Doctor Doom instead of him.

If you can find a reliable source to cite, sure. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 07:17, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Does Wizard magazine count? I stumbled across a chart that was once in it and it had a chart of some of the characters and rated them according to strength. While the tonnage wasn't accurate the relative posistions appear correct based on the actions of the characters in the comics. The link below shows the chart and information on it.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/000115229.cfm

Oh man, that is a tough question. Wizard articles are at best one or two steps above a blog in terms of relevence or reliability, and usually a step below. I don't know what to say about that one. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 20:09, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

The Wizard article was the only absolute one I can think of, the rest is based on conjecture from the stories, espically since many of them have been written by the same writer. The reasons I stated above are why it seems most obvious he is weaker.

His fight against Hulk wasn't really "humiliating", IMO...but yeah, regular continuity Thor seems to be a lot more powerful. Vignettelante 06:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Reguler Thor has also had 40 years worth of power creep his first decade worth of showings arnt as impressive either. --Bushido Brown 18:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

I remember the Wizard article. It stated I believe that Ultimate Thor could lift only about 13 tons while the Hulk could lift 17 tons. Now, there have been special versions of the OHOTMU put out by Marvel focusing on the characters of the Ultimate Marvel Universe. And according to them, Ultimate Thor can lift somewhere between 75 and 100 tons. Now, of course, writers can always write the character as being able to lift considerably more than that but I doubt they'd show him being able to lift less. While OHOTMU stats can't be used in the articles, they do serve a purpose in this particular sense as they directly contradict the Wizard article.Odin's Beard 00:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

There's also the issue that a lot of his power seems to be derived from his belt. In Ultimates 2, when the Ultimate Avengers (i.e., Quicksilver) tear his belt off he plummets to the Earth, pukes, and sits crumpled on the ground, defeated. MarkB2 20:27, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Overhaul

I've gone through the article and added the information I know (from collecting Ultimate titles,) including the Ultimate Six, War, and Secret infomration. Does anyone think they aren't worth mentioning in this article?

[edit] Costume

Has it been explained how/why the circles on his costume glow blue? And do the cirles represent anything? --68.103.154.140 10:32, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes and no. When Loki purported to be a scientist and Thor his deranged half-brother, it was made clear that the circles were a part of the technology in the 'suit', and thus glowed as a function of the use of the suit. The specifics weren't given. Since Thor's been proved to be a deity, the glowing is now probably an artist's convention to show how powered he is by the intensity of the glow. none of this has been explicitly state inthe context ofhte comic, nor in any interview I've seen, I'm just going by my interpretations of the panels and dialogue given in the book, and my years of experience as both a comics reader and illustrator in visual cuing. ThuranX 19:00, 18 November 2006 (UTC)