Talk:Ulrike Meinhof

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Contents 1 Journalistic career 2 Brain Surgery 3 Picture is not public domain 4 Suggested rewrite 5 What was the name of Ulrike's mother (including her maiden name)?

[edit] Journalistic career

There is barely a mention of her acclaimed journalistic career pre-RAF, when she was one of West Germany's leading feature writers and also was very present on radio and television, working for e.g. WDR and SFB. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.128.66.121 (talk) 12:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Brain Surgery

I seem to remember that there was an article (perhaps in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung) that talked about Meinhof having brain surgery and that it affected her thinking. I think the theory was that it, in effect, made her a terrorist. Would we want to mention that here? I can look up the exact particulars before adding it in, but I wanted to see if anyone would be interested in seeing that here. Or is that perhaps out of place? -Maaya 02:19, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

No, such an addition would be absolutely welcomed! It would be good to make sure it's thoroughly sourced though, as it sounds like it could be a contentious statement.... Dan100 (Talk) 17:33, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Picture is not public domain

it says: Mit freundlicher Genehmigung von Bettina Röhl (Tochter von Ulrike Meinhof), but: even if Bettina Röhl ist Ulrike Meinhofs Daughter, it's not up to her to release the photo, because she hasn't taken the photo. Only the photografer could do that. It seem's quite clear a professional photografer has taken the picture. But even if a private aficionado has taken the picture, it cant't bee Bettina, who approx 3 years old when the pcture was taken. So please delete the picture on commons. I like Burke's Peerage 08:54, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

I just added the image back in before reading this but I still think it's right to leave the image on the page until/unless it's deleted. Zetetic Apparatchik 23:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Suggested rewrite

I've done a heavy rewrite of the article (at Talk:Ulrike_Meinhof/zaTemp for now), mainly based on the German article. It could do with sources more than anything (some of which I can get of the DE article) but I am going to switch it over in the next week or so unless there are any objections. (Oh and feel free to correct.) Zetetic Apparatchik 02:06, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Well, I've replaced it now. Zetetic Apparatchik 18:48, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

I've added place of birth and death. The article still has the sources required tag though: where would you want more references? It seems pretty thorough already. Bhawks_2 01:01, 10 September 2007

I think that they should probably be listed as in 'West Germany' as I've done in the infobox, but I'm open to discussion. As regards references ; I'm pretty happy with it, others aren't apparently. I guess early Bio is a little lacking in sources. Zetetic Apparatchik 12:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What was the name of Ulrike's mother (including her maiden name)?

I encounter this annoying fact in Wikipedia, too frequently to be just an accident, that people's mother's name do not get mentioned in the biographies. Why is that? Granted that Ulrike's mother may not have been proud of her daughter, but the same can be said about her father! Could we please treat mothers equally as fathers? For those of us who may have forgotten it, we are now seven long years into the 21st century! Incidentally, Frau Meinhof won't do!

--BF 01:22, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Meinhof's father was a vaguely notable art historian, and a published author in that area as well. That's the reason that his name appears in the German article (from which I derived much of the article and particularly the first section) and her mother's doesn't. Zetetic Apparatchik 23:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you Zetetic Apparatchik for your response. Actually I wrote the above somewhat provocative text in order to prompt someone finding out the name of the mother. I find it terribly unjust (for completeness, I am neither a woman nor a feminist, although I realise that the latter have points) that mother's names don't get mentioned in biographies, as also attested by your own experience that the German article from which you have taken your information does not mention the name. I believe this to be truly a social injustice which needs rectifying; that the mother may not have been a well-known person is not even a secondary issue (mind you, the name of the father is not mentioned in the context of his professional achievements but in the context of he being the father of Ulrike Meinhoff; why, then, is the name of the mother missing?). May I therefore request you to be kind enough and enquire from the people who might know the name and add the name to the biography? You may just ring a university deparment (history, sociology or political science department), or even the Bundes-Polizei, and ask about the name. With kind regards,

--BF 13:17, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

'Ingeborg' according to [1]. I might rewrite her early life to be a bit more complete generally at some point. Zetetic Apparatchik 22:38, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Dear Zetetic Apparatchik, thank you for your prompt response. Now it remains to know the family name (that is the maiden name) of Ingeborg. One could write, for instnace, Ingeborg Meinhof, née <<the maiden name>>. (I have just checked the link that you give, and indeed there is no mention of Ingeborg's maiden name.) Kind regards,

--BF 01:16, 27 March 2007 (UTC)