Talk:Ulcinj
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Ulcinj (Alb.Ulqin) is famous for its long and wide beaches with shallow sea and therapeutical sand. In the 19th century its fleet consisted of 400 ships.
In the 17th and 18th centuries it was pirates' nest with flourishing slave trade. In Mala Plaza bay, the pirates celebrated their victories, preparing halvah stirring it with oars, dividing their loot.
The wider area of Ulcinj (Alb.Ulqin) was populated even in the Bronze Age (today's Old Town) and founded by the Greeks and Illyrians (Albanian ancestors) in the 5th century BC.
[edit] Albanian name
Is the proper Albanian name Ulqin or Ulqini? I happen to have a wall clock I got in Ulcinj which says "Ulqini" on it. --dcabrilo 08:21, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
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Albanian name for Ulcinj is not corrent and may not be published. Ulcinj is still a part of Montenegro and the official language there is Serbian Ljekavian.
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- whatever. ilir_pz 09:32, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Whatever? Excuse me but are you crazy? The official name of Ulcinj is Ulcinj in Serbian Ljekavian dialect. Not in albanian or turkish the official site of Ulcinj is written in Serbian Latinic in the Ljekavian dialect. I don't have seen at the Ulcinj website info in albanian or albanian or turkish names. So this is not correct. Albanians in Ulcinj may user their own language by law but its not the official language of Montenegro so these turkis/albanian names are not correct.www.ulcinj.cg.yu
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- This is no place for nationalist pushing opinions. The official name is that way as you said, I did not say it is not. But the Albanian name must be put as it is the case with many cities with mixed population. And oh, Ulcinj has more than 80% Albanians. How about some respect for them? No need to call me crazy, that is a personal attack. Regards,ilir_pz 11:02, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Im sorry to say but watch your post history....you have the caracteristics of a nationalist too. You post/edit in Serbia and Montenegro wiki, the MOntenegro wiki and in the wiki of Ulcinj and Plav. Sorry but as Albanian you cannot make your own rules on a wikipedia of another county.
To say Montenegro is now independance and the official language of these wiki will be .....
will be contiduned SerbiaAndMontnegro 09:48, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
- "Official language of area X" however it's defined, is not binding to Wikipedia. It's a common practice to list all the sensible alternate names, which normally include the name(s) given by the city's inhabitants. See also Subotica or Nakhichevan. Duja 08:54, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Duja has explained me some things about naming places in other languages oke that's right but illir_pz had no argument only "whatever". But at the Ulcinj page was the Turkish name of Ulcinj fomuled too. There al amost no Turkish in Ulcinj and the explanation contents that normally include the name(s) given by the city's inhabitants. In these situation mostly Montenegrin and Albanians.
When you go to the page of Plav 1 you will see that the name of Plav is formuled in Turkish too. But when you see the the population of the Plav municipality you will see there are almost no Turkish there.
Just one point:
Would't it be better to suscribe city names as: Official name Montenegrin Cyrillic (Ljakavian): Ulcinj (Can't scribe Cyrillic here) and Montenegrin Latinic (ljakavian): Ulcinj. And than suscribe other names of Ulcinj and Plav (wich use the inhabitants of that city's) as: Alternative names: Ulcinj (but in albanian)?
How come no one takes offence at the Italian naming? It's not like Ulcinj is flooded with Italians, either....Instead we might want to focus on expanding this entry in a constructive manner which does justice to Ulcinj's exciting and multicultural, multiethnical history as a major pirate hub and trading point of the Adreatic/Mediterranean. It is our everyone's city, our everyone's history and makes for a story of mystery and excitment...what a pitty it would be to drown this in nationalist sentiments of either kind...Just some food for thought... Habib.
SerbiaAndMontenegro 09:20, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
