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[edit] Editing

This page needs editing. By the end of the article, the author speaks opinion as fact. It is clearly not written in NPOV.

[edit] Renaming this article

A proposal has ben put forward to require renaming of all articles that have the phrase "conspiracy theory" in their title, due to what proponents claim is the inherent POV of that phrase. Please see Wikipedia:Conspiracy theory. A vote is occurring at Wikipedia talk:Conspiracy theory. -Willmcw 05:50, May 6, 2005 (UTC)

The voting results concluded that no change was warranted. -- Papeschr 05:24, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Should Alien life be found, it finds his planet

Does the governments have a plan in case alien life is found, it finds us ?Martial Law 20:49, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

If there is alien life form don't you think they will be looking for us?--Goblin1 12:42, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Reason I asked is that if it is found/it finds us, the people will revolt for various reasons, such as reasons dealing with religion and revenge because they were ridiculed, abused because they've had a encounter with a forbidden matter. Martial Law 22:28, 9 March 2006 (UTC) :)

[edit] POV tag

The tag says, "The neutrality of this section is disputed. Please see discussion on the talk page." I see no discussion here, no evidence that the neutrality is being disputed. I am removing the tags. Tom Harrison Talk 14:31, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

I think this is an NPOV fork. Lemme look up the definition.

[edit] Robertson panel

"In the 1950s, the US Government initiated the Robertson Panel to silence any and all who see UFOs and/or aliens. Since psychiatrists are employed for this, the assumption is that any who have these encounters, are interested in these matters are to be judged mentally unfit, i.e. crazy, insane and the like. This was initiated by the CIA to "reduce", if not eliminate interest in UFOs, aliens and the like."

I think we need a citation to show exactly who says 'the US Government initiated the Robertson Panel to silence any and all who see UFOs and/or aliens,' and to substantiate the rest of the paragraph. Tom Harrison Talk 01:27, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I've moved this here from my talk page:

Its in the Wikipedia article, the part where psychiatrists are mentioned. Also done Google Searches on this as well. Someone sued the CIA under the Freedom of Information Act and got this information. Psychiatrists are used to "diagnose" a mental disorder in someone who has seen a UFO, a alien. Martial Law 22:12, 9 March 2006 (UTC) :)
This was a means to "reduce" interest in UFOs after Washington D.C. was involved in a major UFO sighting. Martial Law 22:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Tom Harrison Talk 22:20, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

On the Google Search results, there are 17,200 references to the Robertson Panel Martial Law 22:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC) :)

Think about this: YOU see a UFO, a alien, then you report it, only to be declared mentally unfit, such as "crazy", a idiot, drunk, on drugs, and the like, since psychiatrists, are used in this program to ridicule people if they report spotting UFOs, aliens, have a interest in these matters. How would you like to be "diagnosed" with a "mental disorder", called a drunk, a dope-fiend, a idiot, worse, all because you had seen a UFO, a alien, have a interest in these matters ? I did'nt think so either. I have had contacts in the police forces I've came accross who were in the military and/or in the "Alphabet Agencies" themselves, and I've been told things that would scare Stephen King and other horror writers, and if what I was told was made public, Linda Moulton's suspicions, incl. Martial Law will be initiated, ostensibly for the public safety, to prevent rebellions and maintain order. Martial Law 08:00, 29 March 2006 (UTC) :)

[edit] Why....

Why is Project GRUDGE not mentioned ? Martial Law 20:18, 14 March 2006 (UTC) :)


[edit] Unclear passage

"what it means is that if you see something in the sky, not held up by strings that you are unsure of, is a UFO, an “Unidentified Flying Object.”"


I'm not sure what the correct meaning here should be, but I don't know any strings that I'm unsure of. I can't put this sentence into any order that I'm satified with, so if anyone knows what the intendeed meaning is, can you please correct it? antabus 21:00, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vanunu of the UFOs

Why there is no mention of Gary McKinnon? He hacked half of CIA and US military computers to find proof of the saucer conspiracy!

Because he failed to find any such thing, I guess.

Probably because it was a pretty piss-poor excuse to hack government property when you get down to it... Shadowrun 03:27, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sources

Roswellproof.com is not a reliable source for anything but what its operator thinks. Tom Harrison Talk 20:50, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] US Presidents and UFO's

Someone should add something about the US Presidents and UFO's topic. [[1]]--James Bond 10:29, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cold war pressure: the Russians

I can't remember where, but there was a documentary about theories involving Russians deliberately sending UFO type experimental craft over America. It was suggested the strategy was intended to intimidate or distract America, by either 1) maintaining the fear element in the cold war manueverings; or 2) as spycraft. There was no mention of it involving Britain though. If anyone does know/can find out about this, should it go in as well? Julia Rossi 00:41, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Secret UFO investigation archive?

On March 22nd, 2007, The French Space Agency released a secret UFO investigation archive online.

Is that true? Does someone have the link for that? Zouavman Le Zouave (Talk to me!) 10:35, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Yep - see here
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/French_Space_Agency_CNES_releases_UFO_files
The last sentence in this report is wrong, though, because the UK is now proactively releasing its own UFO files – much to the chagrin of UFO believers who thought the files would never see light of day and could hence make claims of an official cover-up without fear of contradiction... Skeptic2 (talk) 20:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The phrase "conspiracy theory" is not a neutral way of describing something

I have proposed that articles titled with "conspiracy theory" be renamed at Wikipedia:Conspiracy theory titles, please direct all comments to the proposal's discussion page, thanks. zen master T 22:26, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Phil Schneider

This article red-links to Phil Schneider - aparently there was an article on him but it has disappeared - how can I find out why?86.132.231.78 17:04, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] UFOs The Goverment's Greatest Bluff

I believe that UFO's were nothing more than the creation of the U.S. Goverment to cover up radically advanced aircraft during and after WWII. If there is something that even the U.S. Goverment doesn't understand then that brings a sense of false confidence to the Soviets, that even America is vulnerable. The Goverment denies the existance of UFOs inorder to raise suspision that there are UFOs. By doing this people are to busy believing that the goverment is lying to them then to use there common sense that UFOs are infact of goverment desighn and military implication.

The Soviet's records of UFOs is a counter measure desighned to cause the american populous to fear that they are infact more vulnerable as this phenominon is worldwide.

Videos of Alien optopsy and of UFO sightings are also fabricated by the goverment and dumped "Accidently" by U.S. officials for the sole purpose of keeping the populous from suspicion that the current aircraft technology is more advanced than they want us to know and that the only way it could be so is by alien technology.

Finally I believe that it is the false interpritation of images, that leeds people to believe they have seen a UFO or see a ufo in hyroglifics or anchient texts. If you were to drop a fistfull of beads onto the floor and then try to interprite an image from it, you would see what you want to see, a bird, a plane, a face, etc.

Rovert Scott February 6, 2008