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May I add Houston, Texas to the list of things that we could try to have as a featured article? WhisperToMe 22:06, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Sure, add whatever you want. Mike H 22:19, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)

Contents

Suggestions

Does anyone want to work on Waffle House? It could probably use a little work...--Carl 00:21, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I'll take a crack at it...how about following the UK example and ID'ing ourselves with respect to where we're from? Ellsworth 21:37, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Doobie Brothers

Aren't they from San Jose, California? Usually California is considered part of the Southwest, not South. Maurreen 11:31, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Their subject matter dealt with Southern songs, and their sound was the same. Creedence Clearwater Revival was also a California band, but it's considered pretty much Southern. I figure it's quite relevant. Mike H 13:58, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)

Don't you think those Confederate flags will drive away about half the population of the South? Ortolan88 15:15, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC), born and bred in the briar patch

I'm rather uncomfortable with them as well. Don't want to be a pain in the ass or anything, but...[[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (talk)]] 15:19, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)
I like 'em. They piss off Yankees. :D --Golbez 17:10, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)

They piss off black people. They piss off people who hate slavery and love liberty (same thing, you know). I'm glad "we" lost the war. I'm ashamed "we" fought it. I'll skip this forum as long as they remain. If this forum is limited to "white" southerners (if you only knew all your cousins . . . ), I'll skip it forever. I'll just write my articles on my own-ee-o. Ortolan88 20:41, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Holy generalizations, Batman. --Golbez 21:20, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)
I live in the Southern United States, not in the Confederacy. [[User:Gamaliel|Gamaliel Image:Watchmensmiley20.gif]] 17:19, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

They're gone, all right? I mean, wow. Mike H 21:21, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)

Jimbo added his name to the rolls while they were still there; better not let that get out, or the anti-cabalists will have so much more ammo. ;) --Golbez 21:32, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)

So, it's a cabal, is it? I thought it was just näive white southerners not appreciating or understanding the meaning of the symbol. As for generalizations, some of them are true, the war was a war against slavery and black people do not like the Confederate flag. I didn't make any generalizations about Golberz (although one can privately surmise). Speaking for myself, I hate slavery and love liberty, and one of the main reasons I'm glad I grew up in the south is all the black people I got to know and all the great black music I learned to love. It's worth putting up with a few peckerwoods and wool-hat boys. I think "Dixie" is one of the greatest songs ever written and I used to thrill to hear it played, but it isn't heard anymore, and I think the Confederate flag should join it. Ortolan88 00:48, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC) PS - I know all kinds of people who are not particularly racist value the Confederate flag because they like to think of themselves as "rebels" and they appreciate a truly great piece of vexillological graphics, but the same could be said for other flags with unmistakable historical baggage as well.

I was referring to the people who think a cabal, led by Jimbo, runs the site. Associating him with the southern cross could only give them more ammo. :) I understand and appreciate fully the meaning of the symbol, I understand and appreciate fully the meaning of the Civil War, and understand and appreciate that most people don't understand or appreciate either. But yes, it has historic baggage - So many things do. But as you can see, I have not challenged nor reverted the change. So let's let this argument die. --Golbez 01:41, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)


Okay. Now about this idea that the Doobie Brothers and Creedence are southern bands . . . Ortolan88 03:19, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Well, damn, if it pisses you off that much, just remove it. Mike H 07:17, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)

To think that these are southern bands makes me laugh. Ortolan88 13:22, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

You've made your point. However, I distinctly remember other sources (like Encarta encyclopedia) making a point of CCR's "Memphis sound". Mike H 17:21, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)
I'm collecting material for an article - The Memphis Sound or Memphis Sound. Please see Talk:Stax_Records for some peliminary ideas. I'm pretty sure The Memphis Sound is a Southern thang ;) Quinobi 04:20, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The influence of "southern sound" on CCR is totally legitimate for an article about them. That doesn't make them a southern band, any more than the energetic Japanese bluegrass scene is a southern scene. BTW, I only brought it up because I was trying to return in kind Goberz's gracious ending of the flag issue by making a little joke. Gee. Ortolan88 18:48, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

New Orleans nominated for featured status

I think the New Orleans, Louisiana article is quite a good one and deserving of featured status, so I nominated it. I would appreciate it if y'all could take a look at it and comment or vote at its candidate page.--Kevin M Marshall 21:06, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Yogurt/Yoghurt discussion

I know posting here is rather a unusual approach to getting more American involvement into a discussion currently taking place regarding a vote for reverting a rename from "Yoghurt" to "Yogurt" at Talk:Yoghurt. Apparently, the original move took place without very much involvement or consensus about the name change. The discussion to changing it back to Yogurt has been oddly even, with a high number of United Kingdom speakers chiming in. Of course, the fact that the issue was brought up at the Wikipedia talk:UK Wikipedians' notice board may have something to do with it. That seems to me to be an unfair way to resolve an issue. So my suggestion is that if you have time, take a look at the debate at Talk:Yoghurt and, if you care one way or another, please weigh in. ℬastique▼talk 22:49, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Hello!

I figured this would be a very good idea to start. The U.S. South is a very important region, and the articles are especially dear to me, since I'm a Son of the South. Since there are many good Wikipedians from this area, and over 100 million people in general, I figured it wasn't too "niche". Mike H 20:36, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)

U.S. South COTW

Please help the two articles already listed reach featured status.

Also, list an article you'd like to see for Collaboration of the Week. Since the Australians decided to do Cyclone Tracy, I'd like to see a hurricane that affected the South get good treatment, and that's why I listed Hurricane Camille. I felt it was lacking in comparison to other hurricane articles. Mike H 22:19, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)

For Southern Wikipedian peer review

Please give feedback on the current selections, The Doobie Brothers and William Faulkner. Feel free to add others if you want people to review the selections, and post asking for opinions. Mike H 05:02, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)

COTW

G'day to all those Southern Americans out there! I was wondering if you guys have considered making a COTW subpage? We tried it at the Aussie Collaboration of the Week and it seems to have worked pretty well for Cyclone Tracy. Just a thought. - Ta bu shi da yu 08:43, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Working quite well for the Irish COTW too. Filiocht 13:05, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

COTW Voting

I sent notes to people who were subscribed to this board two days ago, and very little voting has gone on. Right now it looks like an article is going to win COTW by a shocking margin of two votes to one, so seriously, please vote. Mike H 22:55, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)

By a margin of 3 to 1, Southern U.S. cuisine is our first COTW. Mike H 02:27, Oct 3, 2004 (UTC)
The Miami Herald is the new COTW with six support votes. Mike H 21:30, Oct 10, 2004 (UTC)

COTW

Would anyone object if the current COTW stays up another week? It's a very in-depth kind of topic and it is nowhere near done yet. At this point, Delmarva Peninsula will automatically be saved as the next COTW, and new nominations can begin. Any objections? Mike H 21:33, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)

    • I don't mind. Another week is good. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality (hopefully!)]] 21:35, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)
Good idea. Maurreen 21:46, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Involvement

I extended the history article as the COTW for a whole week and save for my edit on the post-Civil Rights movement, nothing happened at all. This isn't encouraging. Mike H 03:14, Oct 31, 2004 (UTC)

Help with images

I've just found the Southern wikipedians interest group and this page. Today is overcast but I will get an image for The Varsity next weekend if the weather's good. I can get pics for most any Atlanta area feature; sometimes travelling in the region so other Southern items are possibilities as well. Will be in New Orleans the first few days of January. Autiger 20:40, 5 Dec 2004 (UTC)