Talk:U.S. Route 41

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is within the scope of the following WikiProjects:

US 94 should have its own article, IMHO, not a misdirection to US 41. It was a separate entity in the U.S. Highway System. To click on a link to US 94 and then have US 41 appear would not make any sense to someone without any prior knowledge of the assimillation 0f US 94 into US 41. -- Fingers-of-Pyrex 19:04, 2005 Apr 20 (UTC)

That's why I bolded US 94 in the history section. I've expanded it to U.S. Highway 94 to make the bolding clearer. --SPUI (talk) 20:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I also added a sentence up top to make it clearer why one is being redirected. --SPUI (talk) 20:44, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I still think the articles should be separate, no matter what gets done to US 41. Redirection is for articles for the same topic but with different names (e.g., Route 66 and U.S. Highway 66). US 41 and US 94 were separate entities under the 1926 commissioning of numbered U.S. highways. -- Fingers-of-Pyrex 21:45, 2005 Apr 20 (UTC)

Redirection is also for when articles cover roughly the same topic and have been merged. In this case there was a simple merging of pre-1949 US 41 and US 94 into post-1949 US 41. --SPUI (talk) 21:51, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

By that argument, Florida State Road 90, which is entirely the historical US 94, should be redirected here as well -- either that or an article on the historical US 94 written and SR 90 be redirected to it instead. The latter makes much more sense. B.Wind 21:23, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Name

Can/should we write an article on names of highways/roads with telescopic names, that is, one combining the names of the two termini, like Tamiami, or the various ones in China, like the Jingshi Expressway and Jingzhu Expressway? ~ Dpr 16:32, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tamiami Trail

Tamiami Trail should have its own article, not a redirection to US 41. While the Tamiami Trail is currenly signed at US 41, it has its own history within the history of Florida. To redirect to US 41 is like redirecting "Asphault" to "Freeway"

But redirecting it to US 41 is more like redirecting "Indiana Toll Road" to "Interstate 80."

Historical US 94 is most, but not all, of the Tamiami Trial. It might be better to have a separate article on the Tamiami Trail with redirects from historic US 94 and Florida State Road 90 as their history is identical. Then, of course, the article should have a reference saying that the Trial is roughly the southernmost 275 miles of US 41 and a link to the US 41 article. B.Wind 21:23, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

I have just written an article on the Tamiami Trail (which is in need of a few pictures and external links). All references to the Trail, US 94, and Florida State Road 90 should link to the new article. B.Wind 17:41, 29 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Article reorganization

I have just edited the article a bit to try to conform with the standard format for U.S. Highways. I'm not sure myself what to write under "Description of route" for each state, as I don't know the route that well north of Tennessee. Most of the information that was listed here was moved to (or already contained in) "States Traversed", "Major Cities", "Bypasses", or "Notes", as it seemed more appropriate there. What else needs to be done to get the "cleaned up to conform to both a higher standard..." tag removed from the article? Any ideas? Ufwuct 16:20, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Royalbroil: Sorry for leaving out those Wisconsin cities. The standards for a "notable city" or "major city" are much lower than your standard of 40,000 for some of the other highway articles. Ufwuct 16:24, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Exit list

# Destinations Notes
48 State Trunk Highway 145 - 124th Street
50A-B State Trunk Highway 74; State Trunk Highway 100 east - Main Street split into 50A and 50B northbound; STH 100 joins southbound and splits northbound
51A-B Pilgrim Road split into 51A and 51B northbound
52 County Trunk Highway Q - County Line Road
54 State Trunk Highway 167 east; County Trunk Highway Y - Lannon Road; Mequon Road STH 167 joins northbound and leaves southbound
57 State Trunk Highway 167 west - Holy Hill Road STH 167 joins southbound and leaves northbound
59 U.S. Highway 45 north northbound exit and southbound entrance; USH 45 joins southbound and leaves northbound
60 State Trunk Highway 145

[edit] History notes

Obviously the detailed history should go in the state articles. Here are some general notes. --NE2 16:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Tamiami Trail, Miami, FL to Dunnellon, FL
  • Dixie Highway, Ocala, FL to High Springs, FL
  • Dixie Highway, Macon, GA to Nashville, TN (roughly)
  • Dixie Bee Line, Nashville, TN to Lyford, IN?
  • Yellowstone Highway, Chicago, IL to Oshkosh, WI (roughly)
State highway numbers
  • FL: 27, 5, 16, 2
  • GA: 7, 11, 19, 7, 3
  • TN: 2, 1, ?
  • KY: no signed routes
  • IN: 10
  • IL: 42A
  • WI: 57, 15

[edit] Georgia re-route

In the vicinity of Acworth and Kennesaw, Georgia, the route was "straightened out" before 1950. This may have been necessitated by the daming of a river resulting in Lake Acworth or Lake Altoona OR it may be that the skipped towns were just not amenable to four-laning which happened about the same time.Student7 (talk) 02:58, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Southern Terminus

This article states (and even includes a nice photo from 2006) that the southern terminus is at Brickell Ave in Miami; however,Google Maps shows it continuing over the MacArthur Causeway into Miami Beach. Has the road been extended, or is Google Maps wrong (again)?Joe (talk) 00:27, 17 April 2008 (UTC)