Talk:U.S. Route 2

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[edit] Cleanup tag added by User:Master son

Cleanup tags have been added saying this article does not comply with project standards. It appears that the issue is that US 2 has too many interchanges in its infobox (12 rather than 10). That type of guideline is inherently arbitrary, and as I read it on the project page it is not as rigid as is being implied here (the project page says "If any routebox has over 10 or so junctions, then some of the junctions need to be removed."); as I see it, 12 is within the scope of "10 or so." US 2 is a long route with 4 termini, all of which need to be listed (and two of which are not Interstates). Seven of the other routes it intersects are major Interstates, for a total of 11 intersections. That leaves only US 71 in Bemidji, MN, as a possible candidate for deletion from the infobox. If there are other issues, I hope the project mavens will outline them.--orlady 13:06, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Accidents in Olympia, Washington

The following chunk added to the article does not read like an encyclopedia element, and does not make much sense. Also, it might fit better in a local article:

In Olympia, Washington, rough and tumble politics may have contributed to 2 deaths along U.S. 2. Meanwhile, on May 2, 2007, the stretch of highway claimed its 44th life since 1999.<ref>Herald Net, [http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/07/05/05/100loc_a1highway001.cfm Politics blamed in U.S. 2 deaths]</ref>

--orlady 11:30, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] History notes

State highway numbers

• WA: 15, 2, 6
• ID: N/A, B, N
• MT: N/A
• ND: 8
• MN: 8
• WI: 10
• MI: 12
• New England: 30, 14, 25, (US 5), 15

Auto trails

• National Parks Highway, Wenatchee to Spokane
• Theodore Roosevelt International Highway, Spokane to St. Ignace and Burlington to St. Johnsbury
• Glacier Trail, Glacier National Park to Minot

Later changes

• Entered NY in 1930, according to [1]
  • But the bridge wasn't built until 1937; see below for more
• Realigned between Montpelier and St. Johnsbury: by 1935
• Extended west to Everett: 1948, replacing part of US 10A
  • US 10A replaced US 10 and overlapped US 195 and PSH 15 in 1940
• Turned back in the UP: 1984

[edit] US 2 through Canada

I'm removing this; the only source is a Usenet post about a personal experience. I don't doubt that it's true, but I've looked for reliable sources and have not found a single one. Here is the text, in case anyone has better success than me:

Until the 1960s at the latest, a route marked as TO US 2 was minimally signed along the Trans-Canada Highway and other roads through Ontario and Quebec, linking the two segments. The connection used roughly followed Highway 17 in Ontario and Autoroute 40 and Autoroute 15 in Quebec.^[1]

--NE2 12:46, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

The closest I can find is legislative resolutions saying that the link via Highways 9 and 17 is "the only connection between our air defense bases" and recommending that US 2 be added to the Interstate system: [2] --NE2 13:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Rouses Point end

The 1927 AASHO log says "...Grand Isle to the New York State line east of Rouses Point." Later logs include "...Montpelier 39, Burlington 24, Grand Island 25, Rouses Point, NY", "...Montpelier 39, Burlington 30, Grand Island 33, Rouses Point, NY", and "...Montpelier 38, Burlington, Grand Isle, Rouses Point, NY" all under Vermont. By the time this log was created, it roughly matched the current log, which has it specifically entering New York and overlapping US 11 to the border. I wonder if they screwed up when they changed the format. (Also note that the linked log says "Route enters Canada-Re-enters US at Sault Ste Marie"; that's not in the current log - of course neither is the I-75 overlap.) --NE2 15:47, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

It looks like laws show US 2 ending at US 11, including back when NY 9B continued north to the border, though it may be omitted for clarity: [3] --NE2 15:51, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

The Rouses Point Bridge opened in 1937. Before then, there was a ferry: [4] A 1943 topo shows only US 9 reaching the border. --NE2 15:55, 16 October 2007 (UTC)