Talk:U.S. Route 12 in Michigan

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I would just like to point out that Michigan Avenue never goes anywhere near Belle Isle.

[edit] Same Road?

Is it really accurate to say that the Michigan Avenue in Detroit and the Michigan Avenue in Chicago are in any way related? They wold never be related. From what I can tell, the Michigan road loses the name Michigan Ave. around Kalamazoo and never regains it, while the Chicago version is just a part of the grid system that peters out in the south suburbs. Triphook 20:14, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Good question. It may well just be a coincidence. The road from Detroit to Kalamazoo also went by Territorial Road and I think portions were part of the Red Arrow highway. older ≠ wiser 23:18, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Bkonrad, You're correct about the Red Arrow highway and Territorial Road bits, one or the other is the usual name for the road in Van Buren and Berrien Counties. Also, there are still portions of the old Michigan Avenue that are still named "Michigan Avenue" even to the west of the Kalamazoo/Calhoun county line. In Van Buren Co. (Paw Paw), and Kalamazoo Co. (near Galesburg, and even part of downtown Kalamazoo) the road is still named Michigan Avenue for at least part of its route. But I can't find anything west of Paw Paw that still calls it that.Derek Balsam^(talk) 00:49, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

As I recall, Michigan Ave. in Chicago was so named because it used to run along the lakeshore when the city was first platted.Triphook 04:57, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 5 Spokes

I returned the live page to the original pre-Aug06 version regarding the 5 spokes where Jefferson Ave was replaced with Fort St. Additionally, this makes it match with the bio for Augustus Woodward.