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[edit] Nice photos

I just found your aerial photos, and a bunch of them are great. Is Image:Kosciusko-county-lakes.jpg used on en.wikipedia anywhere? -- Finlay McWalter | Talk July 8, 2005 23:56 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm slowly replacing the crummier pics with better ones at the same time as I add new ones. Image:Kosciusko-county-lakes.jpg is used in Wikipedia Kosciusko County, Indiana. --Tysto 2005 July 9 00:05 (UTC)
I've nominated it on Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Keep up the excellent work. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk July 9, 2005 00:18 (UTC)
Thanks! I don't think that one's all that special, so it won't hurt my feelings if it's rejected. --Tysto 2005 July 9 00:24 (UTC)

I really like the photo you added to Yarn Knerq

Thanks! --Tysto
  • Hey, thanks for the new pics and info on the LeVeque Tower page. They look great! --Wild Goose 03:40, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
You're welcome. Thanks for starting the article; I thought I was going to have to write it from scratch. I'm hoping to get a pic of the Palace, altho it's kind of dull when there's no event. --Tysto 14:36, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Just wanted to mention that this is a beautiful photo: blight and renewal. jareha 00:30, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! --Tysto 03:32, 24 October 2005 (UTC)

Nice photos you added to Projection screen. Thanks! Santtus 19:55, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Your architectual photos: Cleveland?

Excellent photos illustrating classical orders! I hope you approve of my captions. If you'll think of details as you go about, you could give Wikipedia great examples of triglyph, guttae, metope, corbel, bracket, coffering, therm, yada yada yada. Knowing the location (and the date) makes the visual information more precise. I could write a paragraph on almost any of your images. I hope you are pleased, not irritated! --Wetman 22:28, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

  • Thank you very much! I happened to notice that the life insurance building pic was similar to the post office pic I had taken months before, but they were different classical orders. A quick search turned up the third... on the very building I work in! I'll take a look at the articles on triglyphs and other elements and stay on the lookout for examples in neoclassical buildings. Now that I think about it, I'll visit the art deco and Gothic pages and see what I have to illustrate them. --Tysto 01:03, 2005 August 12 (UTC)
In Cleveland, the 16-storey Leader Building is by Charles A. Platt (1912).

East 6th St. at Superior Ave.. If you have a zoom, a cornice detail would be good. If you'll stick it at the Platt entry, I can work it into text. Just a thought for your shots-on-order... --Wetman 00:46, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

I'll look into it soon. I'm on vacation this week but I start working in the Cleveland area next week. --Tysto 02:23, 2005 August 30 (UTC)
After a few weeks now, I still haven't been able to get into Cleveland downtown. I've added pics I took of Elyria, Ohio and Vermilion, Ohio and now Columbus, Ohio (including the amazing LeVeque Tower), as well as a couple of others along my drive, but Cleveland eludes me. Dark, mysterious Cleveland. --Tysto 15:41, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar Award

An Award
I, Cuppysfriend, award this Photographer's Barnstar to Tysto for his tireless efforts to improve Wikipedia articles about Indiana with his photographic skills and contributions.
  • You're welcome! --Cuppysfriend 19:20, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Studebaker Motor Company has an AfD listing now

Tysto- I noted where you made a comment regarding the validity of Studebaker Motor Company and its lone dealer, Holbrook Studebaker, on the SMC listing talk page. I have listed the SMC page for deletion as of today and I would appreciate your two cents regarding whether or not the article has merit. Stude62 03:47, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Lost

Hi Tysto, I wish to thank you for your comment on my talk page about the NPOV-edits on the Lost article... several months ago! I have not officially had the time to thank you, and for that I fell quite ignorant! Argh! Thanks again, and sorry if this fells a little out-of-the-blue. Kilo-Lima|(talk) 19:27, 20 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Thank You

Thank you for your assistance with Wikiproject Ohio. With your help, we will be able to improve the quality of articles relating to Ohio. Again, thank you. Ajwebb 23:50, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Baptism of Jesus article

Hi,

I've made some edits -- some shallow, some deeper -- to the Baptism of Jesus article to which you contributed. I'd like to get consensus on them.

Thanks, --jrcagle 02:29, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kilt article cleanup

Last January, you placed a cleanup tag on the kilt article. After some difficulty, a few days back I began a major reorganization and cleanup to deal with the issue which was raised by yourself (and others). This cleanup effort was undertaken after the proposal was entered on the article's talk page (and in the Scotland portal) for discussion and after all those responding expressed support.

I have now completed most of the textual material, although there is still planned a section on altering a kilt and on kilt care. Would like please examine the new article and, if you deem appropriate, remove the cleanup tag. Either way, please feel free to discuss the matter on the article talk page or on my user talk page.

One comment; the article needs photos. As soon as the Highland games season out here where I live starts, I will procure such photos as necessary. This is part of a build of Highland games related photos on Wikimedia Commons. JFPerry 17:56, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Briefly, on the broad description/history/types structure. If this were followed in the case of the kilt article, it would make for a very long article! The other problem is that the various types do not share the same history or social function. Thus it would be difficult if not impossible to speak about them all in general (broad description) terms since they just don't share enough commonalities. JFPerry 00:01, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
I appreciate your committment to the subject; it's obviously near and dear to you. But we're talking about a few variant forms of a garment here; it's not exactly Warship. Lots of articles are about broad subjects with multiple types; each type gets a short section and, if it warrants it, a link to a main article of its own with more detail. If the types really don't share enough commonalities, then the article needs to be a disambiguation page. I don't think that's necessary in this case. --Tysto 01:04, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Spelling Reform

I copied your userbox, is that ok?Cameron Nedland 19:24, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Sure! If anyone else shows interest, maybe we should make it a real template. --Tysto 19:53, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
That would be cool. I'll ask 1028.Cameron Nedland 21:18, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
How do we make it a real template?Cameron Nedland 14:46, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Creating a template is basically a matter of putting the code into a template page like Template: User Photography. I think that there's an effort to avoid user box proliferation and change formats, so that's why I didn't create any just for my page. Wikipedia:Userboxes is the place to look for info, but I haven't read it closely. --Tysto 16:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Interquel/Midquel merge

I recently saw that you suggested a merge of the articles Interquel and Midquel. Seeing that there hasn't been any movement on the discussion page against it, why don't you just do it? You have my support.
-- Lady Aleena talk/contribs 12:07, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks. That had fallen off my list of to-dos. --Tysto 14:45, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bear in the Woods dispute

About the "Bear in the woods" dispute. First of all, one doesn't have to take every single dispute to the talk page before taking action, especially when the matter of dispute is one sentence. This is what "Be Bold" is all about. It's not a matter of maintaining neutrality, it's a simple matter of the English language. Using the word "if" does not imply that the speaker is casting doubt on something. If you think that the word "if" implies that the speaker is doubts the validity of what he is saying, read this very sentence carefully. Secondly, you implied that I deleted all the criticism in the ad, when I only deleted that one point. I left the "Orwellian oxymoron" bit in there, because that at least seemed like a legitimate criticism.

Do you have a source for the "cognitive dissonance" point, anyway? If you don't, it violates No original research, and in any case you have to find a citation for it before putting it back in, because I'm deleting it again. If you cite a source for this claim, I won't touch it anymore. StarryEyes 19:16, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

PS: I realize this is something of a "pet article" for you, since you've done most of the work on it and have reverted other people's contributions to it before. But Wikipedia is a collaborative effort, so you can't expect for the article to stick to your original vision forever. I have left the other criticisms in the article, but have added "citation needed" templates, because they, too, smack of original research. (Though unlike the "if" claim, they are at least plausible.)
I don't have a specific source for "cognitive dissonance" or "Orwellian oxymoron." Those are just my perhaps too-colorful summary of the limited criticism of the ad that I could find ("vague," "plays to fear," etc.). Those could go, for all I care, but it's important to include criticism of some kind to provide balance for the article, and summarizing general feeling is not original research. You deleted the part that was purely logical: the ad starts off claiming "There is a bear in the woods" and then admits that "some don't see it at all" and ends with "...if there is a bear." You may interpret that as being logical, but critics would not.
I don't have any problem with people making changes to this article or any other that I've started. I've said on the talk pages that I don't think the article is perfect and that it could use some revision. But casually demanding citations and threatening to delete important sections if they aren't justified is literally asking me to respond, so I have. And I take exception to your characterization that I have reverted edits by others "many times before." In "Bear, I reinstated some criticism once before and in "Morning in America," I once removed an extraneous link to a wrestler. --Tysto 21:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
Wait a second, when did I threaten to delete "important" sections of the article? And you have a problem with demanding citations? I do apologize for saying "many times before", but you see that I edited that out before you responded, once I saw I was wrong. As I say on the talk page, a neutral article about a political advertisement doesn't need criticism to be neutral, and criticism should not be included unless the criticism itself is noteworthy (as in the infamously race-baiting Willie Horton ad). Including criticism just for the sake of including criticism when there are no reliable sources for it goes against site policy. For instance, the Morning in America article (again, largely your work) is about a political ad, but doesn't include criticism for the sake of including critcism, and yet I find it neutral. (An admission, albeit a pragmatic one so you don't think I'm some sort of Reagan zealot: the first example I cited was Daisy (television commercial), but there is a sentence squeezed in there about contemporary criticism. Ah, well. So long as the criticism is notable!) StarryEyes 03:45, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
PS: On a less contentious note, Nasir Lamine's football team now has an entry. And I distinctly recall reading an article on black metal in Spin Magazine, though I concur with your "unholy crap" assessment.  :) StarryEyes 04:00, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
It's not you alone, but you personally have twice now actually deleted what I feel is important material about criticism. Another user threated to "delete large portions" of the article because the tone was too positive and individual statements did not have citations. I don't think that sort of thing serves the quality of Wikipedia. It would be different if someone said "I did a quick web search and skimmed the articles in the References section, and I can't find any criticism anything like what you describe, so I deleted the material." You deleted criticism because you disagreed with it.
There's nothing wrong with marking a suspicious statement as needing a citation, but you have to admit that it's awfully easy to add a tag rather than finding something that supports or refutes the statement. As I said on the talk page: I seem to be the only one providing any citations to back up the edits I've made.
And I think any article about a political advertisement should contain some critique of its claims (at least if it's not "I like Ike"). Criticism and controversy sections are very common on Wikipedia, especially in political articles, and not at all contrary to policy. And I would have added criticism to Morning in America but all I could find was Bruce Springsteen saying "It's not morning in Pittsburgh;"[1]. --Tysto 05:32, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dramatic structure

I'd appreciate it if we can get an effort going to start the ideas mentioned on Talk:Dramatic structure about getting individual articles about different dramatic structures. A similar module may be helpful on Wikibooks. --69.179.133.46 03:42, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I didn't get much support for the idea, and I didn't write any of the original material (re: Freytag), so I left it. I still think it's a good idea, so I may pursue it when I get a chance. Thanks for the note! --Tysto 18:33, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Comparison of file sharing applications

  • Comparison of BitTorrent software
  • Comparison of eDonkey software
  • Comparison of Gnutella software
  • Comparison of G2 software

I was thinking of prodding the whole lot but they seem rather popular any idea what we could send them to AfD under? Whispering 23:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

There is a solid ton of these comparison articles, mostly software related, but including Comparison of cricket bowlers even. They do seem very active and popular, so I suppose we'll have to live with them and chalk it up to the "almanac" aspect of Jimmy Wales' description of Wikipedia as an encyclopedia with some traits of an almanac. --Tysto 03:18, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Featured Picture

A photo you uploaded, Image:B25-mitchell-assembly.jpg, has just become a Featured Picture. Congratulations, and thanks for uploading it for us. Raven4x4x 03:06, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cincinnati Skyline

Hi - I just wanted to tell you that your photo of the Cincinnati skyline is lovely! I live in Cincinnati and am a fellow photographer, but only wish my photos of the same subject were as beautiful as this one. Was this, by any chance, taken during the "Light Up Cincinnati" event? Carinemily 19:03, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Carinemily! I took that photo on a very pleasant spring night back in 2005 with my old snapshot camera on a tripod. Light Up Cincinnati would have been great, I'll bet. I got a very good photo of the football stadium (Image:Cincinnati-paul-brown-stadium.jpg) from the baseball stadium on a different night when they happened to have the lights on. --Tysto 05:53, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Do not post user's personal information on Wikipedia. Ever.

Do not intentionally "out" anonymous Wikipedia users again as you did on the now-deleted User:207.206.150.142, or you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Such actions are hostile and are antithetical to the core tenets of mutual respect that this project is founded on. While this occurred months ago, it is important enough an issue that it needs to be brought to your attention that this is inappropriate. If you have a content dispute with a user, discuss it on their talk page or on the talk page of the relevant article(s). JDoorjam JDiscourse 16:40, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what you're talking about. The only information I had on that user was information he added about himself. All I did was chide the user for vanity and vandalism by name--the name he identified himself with. --Tysto 01:34, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of celebrities with links to the U.S Republican Party has been deleted

You will be glad to know that the above page has been deleted and therefore I have removed it from your Userpage. The ACLU Userbox has also been deleted. Kathleen.wright5 10:43, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Franz Josef Strauß

Might I ask you to take a look at the new discussion going on at Franz Josef Strauß? Yes, it is an ancient topic (the use of ß on en-wiki), but this is one of the most prominent articles in which this issue is of significance. Given your experience, your input would be very much appreciated. Unschool (talk) 01:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I've added my opinion to the discussion. Little Æþöñéß will be proud. --Tysto (talk) 06:31, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Did you know you were mentioned on CNN.com?

[2] Congratulation's "anonymous Wikipedia writer"! -- Kendrick7talk 21:12, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Huh. Thanks. I guess it's a new way for journalists to get something into their stories without having to take responsibility for its accuracy. Usually they just quote a colleague or government official as an "unnamed source"! Meanwhile, I think the article credits the actual, non-anonymous sources pretty well. --Tysto (talk) 05:08, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:OH

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Issue II - May 2008
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There is a eight ton rock in Ohio that was removed from the Ohio River. This rock is known as the Indian Head Rock Dating back to the early 1800’s, this rock was seen sticking out of the Ohio River and used as a navigational mark for barges along the river. The names of citizens from the town of Portsmouth, Ohio are carved into the rock from the late nineteenth a early twentieth centuries. Some of the names were of well known families from Ohio. They would swim out to the rock, have their picture taken with it or simply carve their names into it.
With the advent of the Locks and Dams along the Ohio River, the rock eventually was submerged, but the legend lived on. A gentleman from Ironton, Ohio located the rock after searching a very long time for it, and he and a crew of scuba divers recovered the rock and took it to the shore to be donated to Ohio for historical value.
After hearing the news about the rock being removed, Kentucky introduced legislation against the removal of the rock. They also want the diver who found it to be prosecuted for removing the rock. Kentucky owns the greatest part of the land the river runs on. Even the Army Corp. of Engineers got involved as to how to move the rock without damaging it. Kentucky wants to have it returned to the river.
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