Talk:Typhoons in the Philippines

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Contents 1 Todo 2 Baguio to Bagyo 3 Redirect to category 4 2006 storms 5 Upgrade to article

[edit] Todo

This thing should be finished first. However, it makes little sense to have a list of every tropical cyclone impacting the Philippines. To the article creator, you should consider making this similar to the Catastrophic hurricanes of Florida pages. Only the deadliest and costliest should be listed. Or, you could do it by decade, for example, and list every typhoon that cuased, let's say, 10 deaths in the Philippines and go into some detail. Hurricanehink 18:36, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Baguio to Bagyo

I am changing baguio to bagyo. If the correct term is baguio , I need sources.--Jondel 04:13, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Found it thanks to Jordz and just to clarify: Baguio is the Spanish spelling adopted for English.--Jondel 01:58, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

The word baguio with the meaning as storm or typhoon is depracated even if it exists in the glossary of the American Metereological Society. I will make a note should the same issue come up again.--Jondel 07:08, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

For future reference: (Using Baguio)

1. http://eob.gsfc.nasa.gov/Library/Hurricanes/ 2. http://www.bookrags.com/sciences/earthscience/tropical-cyclone-woes-02.html 3. http://members.tripod.com/~MitchellBrown/almanac/disasters_hurricanes.html 4. http://dmcengr.wisc.edu/courses/hazards/BB02-05.html 5. http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/atmosphere/q0242.shtml 6. http://science.enotes.com/earth-science/tropical-cyclone 7. http://www.irinnews.org/webspecials/DR/Definitions.asp 8. http://webuccs.edu/geogenvs/ges100-online/Chapt7.doc

I agree to the terms. --Howard the Duck 03:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Uh, I don't understand. What terms? The above are references to baguio as a typhoon. I thought you were opposed to the usage as a typhoon?--Jondel 04:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

At least there was a "depreciated by Filipinos" part. --Howard the Duck 14:45, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect to category

Chacor redirect this article to the related category earlier today. I've reverted that as an inappropriate cross-space redirect. Whilst this article currently reads as a highly incomplete list, it can be retasked into a potentially very useful article. If it is focussed on PAGASAs role in TYs, effects of typhoons in general in the Philippines, records and a few significant storms, as opposed to a long list of storms (which could be completed), this could be a potentially very useful article. In any case such a move should be discussed first, I see no reason for such a contraversial move.--Nilfanion (talk) 15:39, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

(ediit conflict) Agreed, and good idea on where it should go. As for the few significant storms, I think at the least all storms retired for their destruction in the Philippines should be mentioned. Hurricanehink (talk) 16:02, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

PAGASA has named storms since 1963. There is no way that this could ever become useful as a list; it isn't even updated. A LOT has to be done to save this "article". Also, it never was a move; don't term it as one. – Chacor 16:01, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

I meant move as in to "take an action" not to use the move function.--Nilfanion (talk) 16:09, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2006 storms

I'm planning on creating 2006 storms list. Is this a good idea? --Howard the Duck 11:35, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Given we already record all the Philippine storms at the yearly article, I can't really see the point. – Chacor 11:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Just go direct to the point. --Howard the Duck 12:30, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

FYI, the country gets blasted by about 20 storms each year, if we'll include all of them. this will be very, very looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong. --Howard the Duck 08:49, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

I think what was said above by Nilfanion was a good idea; only include the most notable ones, records, and Philippine typhoons in general. There's no need to list every storm that affected the Philippines. It would be impractical. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:50, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Although I agree, classifying storms on which should appear here would be hard. The current storm (Queenie), even though the weather bureau raised the storm signals to the highest level (#4), had zero casualties (as of last night), while several weak storms (like Chedeng, forgot the international name) had casualties. --Howard the Duck 02:45, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Umm... this year's "C" was "Caloy", used for Typhoon Chanchu (2006), not all that weak... – Chacor 02:50, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I was refering to Tropical Storm Chedeng. --Howard the Duck 03:11, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm thinking we only include the costliest and deadliest, maybe only 10 to 20. All of the typhoons with their international names retired should be mentioned, for example. Hurricanehink (talk) 02:54, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

How about the storms with strongest winds, most inches of rain (unless they also wrecked a lot of damage)? --Howard the Duck 03:11, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Maybe something like that could work. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:29, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

So, should we move this page to something like "2006 Philippine typhoon impacts"? – Chacor 08:31, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

I'd rather format this page like List of Delaware hurricanes. --Howard the Duck 11:57, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Upgrade to article

Placed all information in the article within a table, and added the related tropical cyclone rainfall maxima into the article into a new section. Also, the article itself was not in the proper format for wikipedia, which has now been rectified. With all the changes made, and inline references finally existing, upped the article to Start class. Thegreatdr (talk) 05:39, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

I think this is a great plan for how to make an article like this work. Listing every typhoon in the Philippines would be overkill, since it'd be endless. Also, since this avoids the "list of" in the title, it is much more of an article, which works well. ♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 15:21, 11 June 2008 (UTC)