Talk:Typhoon Sepat (2007)

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Contents 1 Taiwan 2 Typhoon "Tail" 3 Impact 4 Typhoon vs Super typhoon

[edit] Taiwan

This SPECIFIC storm article clearly falls within the parameters of WP Taiwan. Thus, Taiwan's data (for the time being) most certainly is relevant. Note that I am still not including storm strength information from Taiwan, though I very well could. ludahai 魯大海 15:41, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

This is a content fork created to avoid consensus. Plain and simple. There is no consensus for your addition. Wikipedia runs on consensus. Get over it, or find a consensus. – Chacor 15:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Does that mean you'll update for every new data Taiwan's data comes out? How often do they issue advisories? --Howard the Duck 16:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

im not getting into the debate but for the record Taiwain and the JMA issue advisorys evrey 3 hours and the JTWC issue them evrey 6 hours Jason Rees 19:49, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect. JMA issues bulletins hourly when any part of Japan - including outer islands near Taiwan - are affected. – Chacor 02:10, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

If there's any consolation, PAGASA issues advisories every 6 hours. --Howard the Duck 15:03, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Typhoon "Tail"

Is there a meterological term to describe the phenomenon where the typhoon has passed, but it continues raining for several days (sometimes up to a week) after the storm has left? In Chinese, it is called a 颱風尾巴 (Typhoon Tail). What is it called in English? Also, is this common or specific to places like Taiwan and others with similar typography (i.e. Japan and the Philippines.)

Also, I am gathering some information from Taiwanese news sources which I will incorporate into the body of the impact portion of the article later today or tomorrow. ludahai 魯大海 06:28, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if there's any specific term for it in English, but I can go have a look around the archives I have from NWS Guam if you want. – Chacor 06:31, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Hmm... looking at a synoptic discussion from Guam after Usagi, it says monsoonal flow enhanced rainfall. That might be what you're getting at I suppose. – Chacor 06:40, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

On a Hong Kong weather forum post number 466, the person says that Sepat's "tail" is due to Taiwan's mountains blocking the convection, not allowing it to rotate into Sepat's centre and therefore leaving a large hole in where the eye is supposed to be. This doesn't seem to happen in the Philippines, though. --typhoonchaser 09:48, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

It's the southwest monsoon being pulled by Sepat is what's causing the rains when Sepat went away. It's still happening on most parts of Luzon where we haven't seen the sun since last Tuesday. --Howard the Duck 14:49, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

The mountains explanation makes a lot of sense as Taiwan's mountains are the highest in the region. We actually had more rain yesterday where I live than when the typhoon was coming through. Though, I looked at the images and it seems the actual remnants in the form of the extratropical low are hanging around SE China and are still affecting us somewhat on the west coast of Taiwan. Makes me glad I am not a weather forcaster because this is one science that is FAR from exact, at least in terms of predicting it. ludahai 魯大海 22:46, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Impact

I am using English language citations as much as possible. Where I can't find sources in English, I will use Traditional Chinese citations (note: I don't read Simplified Chinese very well.) ludahai 魯大海 09:00, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm technically a native simplified speaker, so I'll have a look around for Chinese ones, although most of the major stories in China are put out in English too. – Chacor 11:16, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Typhoon vs Super typhoon

The infobox on this article calls Sepat a "Category 5 super typhoon", yet the infoboxes on these articles (Chanchu, Haitang, Talim, Dianmu...ect) say Category 4/5 typhoon, not super typhoon. Which is correct? ---CWY2190^TC 18:48, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

I would guess that since Super Typhoon Status is only from JTWC and there info is not offical we should go for the second option Category 4/5 typhoon. Jason Rees 00:04, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

No, Jason, this is talking about the infobox at the top under the (SSHS) categorisation. The JMA has its own layer which itself says "typhoon". Categories in typhoons are also unofficial. – Chacor 02:11, 22 August 2007 (UTC)