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[edit] Famous typhoid victims that wet queer

William the Conqueror died of Typhoid?

 [[1]] says "died...from abdominal injuries received from his saddle pommel whenhe fell off a horse at the Siege of Mantes."

- - - - typhoid fever******

Typhoid Mary is an integral part of the Typhoid folklore (see, for example, http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/typhoid.htm ). She deserves a line or two.

Though I do agree with you, unnamed person, that "Typhoid Mary is an integral part of the Typhoid folklore", she only carried the bacteria, and was never victimised by it.James.Denholm 09:37, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Medicine

is gatifloxacillin[400mg] is a drug of choice for typhoid fever

[edit] Abigail Adams

I have read that Abigail Adams, wife of President John Adams, also died of typhoid fever.

[edit] ?

Typhoid is a deadly diisease that effects the lungs heart and stomach

I suggest reverting to 18:12, 19 November 2006 Irongargoyle, page currently has "...is a dog..." instead of "...is a disease..." Also, the dates of the sources are messed up.

[edit] Which is true?

I have two encyclopedias. One states that a patient can also become infected with Salmonella typhi through his/her skin. According to the other, the only means of diffusion of the bacterium is ingestion. Which one is right? Devil Master 20:59, 26 Aug 2005 (MET)

[edit] Famous Victims

In the famous victims section of the article, Typhoid Mary is listed. However, the article on Mary Mallon states that she did not die of typhoid fever but of pneumonia. Although she is a famous victim (and therefore belongs in the section) it seems appropriate to reword the section so it doesn't imply that she died of the disease. Does anyone disagree? - Sbeitzel 18:57, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Not at all, the reason Typhoid Mary is so well known is that she was an asymptomatic carrier who passed it on to dozens of people when she went to the USA. The reason she was able to pass it on to so many people is because she didn't die of it. Take it from me, it's hard to pass Typhoid on to people when you're symptomatic... It's hard enough to leave your bed. mr_john 11:00, 27 December 2005

The problem remains that in this article it says she died of a stroke and in the article specifically about her it says she died of pneumonia. Which is it? 59.167.153.238 15:48, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

My word a day desk calendar says that after she was quarantined the 1st time she was found working at a maternity hospital and was identified as the source of a new outbreak, then she was forcibly returned to quarantine where she remained until her death. Can anyone confirm this?

I don't think Alexander the Great ought to be included on the "Famous Victims" list, as the cause of death is hardly definitively known. Malaria, West Nile Virus, Pancreatitis, and even poisoning have been suggested. The evidence is limited and Alexander's body has never been found...I think including him here, at least without some indication of the level of doubt, is inappropriate.Elakazal 20:01, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

--How reliable antibiotics are-- I got typhoid and was given antibiotics, but then after a week i got jaundice. when jaudice was cured, i got fever again. But all of my blood test showed that I had no problem. Then some doctors suggested me that it is because of overdose of antibiotics that were given to me at the time of typhoid.

Will Rogers died in a plane crash, not of typhoid fever. Was he listed here because he had been ill with it at some point in his life? I looked at his biography, but didn't see it mentioned. Kimkins 11:38, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Removed Caroline Harrison, since she died of tuberculosis. Dr. Dan 19:54, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Surely Frank McCourt is still alive! He has published a book this year (2007) and there is no news of his death. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.60.42 (talk) 08:39, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Plague of Athens

I think it may be premature to conclude definitively that the Plague of Athens was typhoid fever, despite the recent results. The symptoms Thucydides describes include several which don't seem to be found in any other cases of typhoid fever; in particular, the loss of eyes and extremities, and the outbreak of visible pustules (as opposed to rashes). I admit, I'm no epidemiologist, but if the symptoms which Thucydides describes are in fact common to modern sufferers, shouldn't they be listed under the "Symptoms" section?

[edit] A few Q's and not enough A's

First, what age group is mostly affected by Typhoid fever? And in what cases is the vaccine used and not used? Thanks to anyone who helps me out!

First off I will admit I am not a doctor and this only what I have found through my own personal research. From what I have found Typhoid fever will infect almost all age groups, but it is more deadly among the young and elderly. Also those with chronic illnesses are less likely to survive an infection. I have not found information on which cases the vaccine is nessecary, but I will assume (once again based on my research) that those that are more prone to infection would be given a vaccine. Sources (CDC and CNN)

[edit] Osama Bin Laden

I think its a little premature to put one unsubstantiated accound of OBL's death due to typhoid in here-- or to rewrite it to reflect the uncertianty around the claim.

SDB

Agreed. Removed until confirmed. 24.4.196.194 14:47, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I didn't even think he was dead. Perhaps this incident is an act of vandalisim?James.Denholm 07:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Osama bin Laden - part two

As noted above, reports of Osama bin Laden's death due to "typhoid" are conjectural at this point. Wikipedia is not a news sources, nor a crystal ball. Please refrain from adding him to the List of typhoid victims until solid confimation has occured (or, more likely, not). -- MarcoTolo 21:06, 25 September 2006 (UTC)'

[edit] Stub

Someone at 24.250.22.58 just added a stub tag to this article. I can't see any possible way this could be considered a stub, so I'm taking it down. --Jemiller226 02:22, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Expansion requests - symptoms

This article has no information on the symptoms and pathology of the disease. It goes right into diagnosis, treatment, and history. -Timvasquez 21:24, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Terms in "Treatment:Resistance" Section

As I understand it, MIC can refer to both "mean inhibitory concentration" and "minimum inhibitory concentration". Is there a distinction to be made between the two? If so, should this acronym be expanded the first time it is used in this article?

Also, the shortened form of ciprofloxacin (CIP) is not used until the third time the antibiotic is mentioned. This seems sloppy to me. Am I alone? Noneus 02:00, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Franz Schubert

I have added that Schubert may have died of other illness, not just typhoid. He had syphilis since 1822 and was taking mercury for it. So, naturally, it could have been a number of things that killed him. Little evidence remains today. 65.255.130.104 23:52, 9 January 2007 (UTC)VonR

[edit] Cleanup Food section

What is the purpose of this section? It says things like "Light soups can be taken " but doesn't say when, or why. If it's treatment, it should go in the Typhoid fever#Treatment section.

Each item says "should be {avoided/taken}" which is a little awkard.

Citations are also missing. — JBazuzi (talk • contribs) 14:57, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, this sounds like home remedies instead of treatment. Without references I think this section is small enough to be deleted. For now I just commented it out though Pullarius1 20:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What does S.typhi do?

My book uses the term "toxins", but also talks about "septical metastases". What exactly happens when infected with the bacterium? thanks! 86.85.133.102 12:37, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] [For how long?

"According to the Centers for Disease Control approximately 5% of people who contract typhoid continue to carry the disease after they recover." for how long?

[edit] salmonellosis

I frequently hear of salmonellosis being equated with typhoid fever. According to the salmonellosis article, infection with Typhoidal Salmonella can lead to typhoid fever. Is this to mean that one can contract that salmonella but not get typhoid fever? Would someone who's more familiar with this please edit this article accordingly? Frotz 07:48, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

salmonellosis is a generalisation for diseases caused by Salmonella Bacteria--Kingkyle222 09:46, 18 September 2007 (UTC).

[edit] -oid suffix

the latin suffix "-iod" means "similiar to". this is in my biology homework, and I'm supposed to define certain terms (one of which is typhoid fever) based on their prefix or suffix. i have looked everywhere i could think of, but cannot figure what "similiar to" has anything to do with typhoid fever. obviously there must be some reason, so could someone please tell me and possible include it in the article . Thanks, '''Connör''' 18:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I think it's "oid" because it's similar to typhus. Im.a.lumberjack (talk) 18:02, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

I think because the disease is similar in its symptoms to typhus, and in fact was not distinguished as a separate disease until comparitively recently. But exactly when it was distinguished, in what circumstances and by whom, I don't know. Must have been post-Koch. Anyone got the answer to this one?

213.7.17.51 (talk) 07:32, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

The name of " typhoid " was given by Louis in 1829, as a derivative from typhus. Until a comparatively recent period typhoid was not distinguished from typhus. For, although it had been noticed that the course of the disease and its morbid anatomy were different from those of ordinary cases of typhus, it was believed that they merely represented a variety of that malady. The distinction between the two diseases appears to have been first accurately made in 1836. [Britannica1911].

213.7.17.51 (talk) 13:56, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

The famous Pierre Louis in 1829 gave a classical picture of typhoid and described in detail post-mortem findings, especially the enlargement and ulceration of the Peyer's patches. He was also the first to use the word "Typhoid". He, however, did not clearly differentiate between typhoid and typhus, which were undoubtedly sometimes confused. It remained for Gerhard in 1837 to be the first to differentiate clearly between the typhoid and typhus fevers. Again it was on the clinical picture alone that this was done. He described the more acute onset of typhus with typical rash. Even after Gerhard's paper in 1837 most medical critics were unconvinced that the typhoid and typhus fevers were of different aetiology. Jenner in 1850, long before S. typhi was discovered, put the matter beyond all reasonable doubt in an admirable and detailed comparison of the two diseases, based on clinical and post-mortem appearances of 66 fatal cases. He showed how the general symptoms differed in the two diseases, that the rash was never identical and how the lesions of Peyer's patches and the mesenteric glands, so characteristic of typhoid, were never seen in typhus. With the publication of this paper the question was settled once and for all.

213.7.17.51 (talk) 14:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] fixed..

I added </ref> after the final <ref=> because it was cutting off the page. (it was the 'ref' just before the list of famous people with typhoid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BruceD270 (talk • contribs) 18:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fixed vandalism on Symptoms section

See comment title. Cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.203.75.7 (talk) 05:36, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] world wide endemic zone

That link and picture was wrong

E. Laval R.; C. Ferreccio R., Typhoid fever: rise, peak and fall of an infectious disease in Chile, Rev Chil Infect 2007, 24, (6): 435-440 [2]

Chile is not a endemic zone... please update the information my english is very bad

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