Talk:Tyndall

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Hello,

I am trying to track down the Tyndall Family Coat of Arms. Here is what I have found so far: Scottish Coat of Arms and Irish Coat of Arms

The arms above appear to have been downloaded from a website with little historical accuracy - although they will have been used by a Tyndall in the past. The coat of arms in the Visitation of Essex for the main branch of the family (then of Hockwald and Maplestead) has around 20 quarterings, though the Tyndale portion - which I understand derives right back to the Northumberland days of the family - is a fesse under three wheat shieves (a fesse is essentially a straight wide horizontal line accross the coat). The crest is a plume of five ostrich feathers out of a ducal coronet of five oak leaves, over which is an ermine charge. The legend behind this (that the feathers were five of the feathers of King John of Bohemia captured by a Tyndale, the others going to the Black Prince, is related in the article.

The Tindal (later Tindal-Carill-Worsley) family, adopted the Deane arms (the second quartering in the Essex visitation): a fesse dancette gules under three crescents), the Tyndale's being heirs of Deane and established there in the middle ages, but retained the crest. These arms can be seen in the engraving of Rev Nicolas Tindal, the translater of the History of England by Paul de Rapin.

I suggest the original arms and crest be put up in the main body of the article, with the Tindal arms in the appropriate section.

|Tyndale Arms done.Francis Hoar (talk)

[edit] Disambiguation?

Given the other meanings of the word 'Tyndall,' ie, the various place names, organizations and so forth, including the mineral Tyndall stone, I think a disambiguation page might be useful. (I'm a real newbie so I'm not sure how to go about that.) Parables 06:35, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Name of Article

This article should be called 'Tyndale'. This was the first spelling of the family at Talsover and at the time of William Tyndale, its most famous member. 'Tyndall' is the spelling of the Irish branch but, along with 'Tindal' has been used only since the 17th century or so. I suggest the site is copied to an article called 'Tyndale' and merged.Francis Hoar (talk)