Talk:Tykocin pogrom

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[edit] Pogrom or massacre ?

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The result was no consensus. Vassyana (talk) 08:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

The article informs about a Nazi massacre of 1400-1500 Jews so the title should be rather Tykocin massacre.Xx236 (talk) 13:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Not really. The massacre in the Łopuchowski forest was the culmination of the tree day long pogrom. --Lysytalk 19:27, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

In another words furniture is more important than human lives. Xx236 (talk) 07:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Sadly, it seems so. The Poles wanted their belonging so much that they could not even wait for Germans to kill the Jews. They treated them as dead already. Polish police would make sure that Jews get no food in Tykocin. --Lysytalk 07:54, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Polish police? Emotions aren't tools to write a non-POV article.Xx236 (talk) 08:20, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree. :-) --Lysytalk 09:11, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

It's not a subject for jokes.Xx236 (talk) 10:38, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

What is your problem then, specifically ? So far, I agree with you that "Emotions aren't tools to write a non-POV article" and "It's not a subject for jokes." --Lysytalk 11:15, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

You have written :-). Xx236 (talk) 12:35, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I smiled at you. Smile is a common sign used to indicate that one has no evil intentions towards someone else. --Lysytalk 17:20, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

The new source doesn't confirm the pogrom story. The mentioned Polish police is apparently a self-made militia, not a Polish state police nor the Blue police.Xx236 (talk) 15:06, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

You may be right. Still, Encyclopaedia Judaica mentions Polish police, too. check e.g. this link --Lysytalk 17:28, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

It was outside GG so there was no Blue Police there. According to many sources it was the auxillary police ie. Hilfspolizei, not formally organised yet, and local civilians. The Hilfspolizei was German organisation, even if ethnically Polish, Belarus or Lithuanian. So eventually German-Polish police, but Polish police means a police organised by the Polish government and the London government certainly didn't organise the Hilfspolize. Xx236 (talk) 09:47, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

It might be a militia organized by Germans from Poles. In that sense it was "Polish". Blue Police was obviously wrong and I have already corrected that. --Lysytalk 09:56, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

So the meaning of Polish should be explained to the reader from Korea or Mali, who doeasn't know anything about history of Central Europe.Xx236 (talk) 10:12, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Done. In fact this article is badly missing scholarly sources. Has there been no historical research or book on Tykocin pogrom written yet ? --Lysytalk 10:36, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Wokół Jedwabnego [1]? Xx236 (talk) 10:33, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

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