Talk:Two-Nation Theory

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S Seagal 18:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)== Terrible Article ==

This is a terrible article that needs work, alot of work, its exceptionally biased and full of outright lies and violates Wikipedia NPOV.

It speaks less about the theory more about the criticism of the theory.

S Seagal 06:59, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I find this funny:"full of outright lies". Considering that the quotations from Pakistani leaders occupy a bulk of of the article, if your argument is applied to their quotes, then you are implying that they just lied! At least try to be careful with the choice of words to avoid sounding dubious.

As for the criticism, unless one has been living in a cave, modern developments on the theory suggests there has been a rethink of "ideological" aspects of the two nation theory by Pakistan govt. itself. Therefore the recent articles/editorials about the validity of the two nation theory itself has been questioned by several sources. Idleguy 09:40, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm talking about the critics of the two nation theory, I take it you dont believe in it?

Beside the point here is that this article is more of a stub than an article there should be sections for an against the two nation theory aswell as ofcourse talking about what the two nation thoery means.

I propose that we write about the theory, and then have three sections underneath, one for support for the two nation theory, the other critics like yourself, and lastly quotes regarding the two-nation theory. S Seagal 18:24, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Ive added a section in support of the TNT and criticism of the TNT this way we can get both sides of the coin, that aside i removed some POV comments like 'Hindus and sikhs were all killed' and added a source that shows that pakistan has one of the largest hindu populations in the world that chose to remain in pakistan as oppose to go to india.

http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_hindu.html

This article needs to be expanded considerably. Its totally sub-standard

I agree! Seniorsag 13:37, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Im having problems showing the criticism and support sections instead they appear in the references section for some reason, if someone knows why perhaps they can fix that?

thanks S Seagal 18:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Interesting. This part of Pakistan's history sounds quite a lot like Zionism and the partition of Palestine. 41.243.98.189 15:22, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Well you are absolutely wrong about that. since Israel was created by european jewry in the lands of Palestine and not by Palestinian mizrahi or indigenous Jewish folks. Pakistan was created by muslim intellectuals with an overwhelming support of the muslim minority after a series of events that exposed the face of the hindu dominated congress and it was founded on lands not alien to the people who demanded it, even many muslims who migrated to Pakistan from India trace their origin to the lands of Pakistan or beyond in afghanistan but still they accounted for less than 10% of the population.

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I have some problems with "overwhelming support of the muslim minority" since (according to my historical map) a majority of the Indian muslims chose to stay in India, but more non-muslims emigrated out of Pakistan than muslims imigrated to Pakistan. In fact, according to what I could read from the incompleate numbers, there were more muslims left in India than there was in Pakistan after the partition. If anyone have some reliable documentation with numbers, PLEASE give references (and quotes if possibly).

Secondly: One have to take East Pakistan (Bangladesh) separate from West Pakistan, West Pakistan was almost compleatly emptied of non-muslims while a large part of the non-muslims stayed in East Pakistan.

As I can read from the arguments(propaganda) that I have read from the debate preceeding the partition Pakistan was intended to be a muslim state with muslim (sharia?) laws while India was expicitly a secular state with free religion without state involvement.

Seniorsag 13:37, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

The muslim league won overwhelming muslim vote in all muslim dominated areas of British India. Much more muslims migrated to Pakistan than non-muslims form Pakistan to India numerically. The non muslims in Pakistan were largely in Punjab where they went to east punjab. Apart from the muslim majority areas in the northwest of south asia and in the east in bangal, the muslims were dispersed all over india in small comunities. It is from these communities that Pakistan received huge numbers of refugees. Pakistan was not created for Sharia, that was the demand of the religious parties (and hence opposition to Pakistan). The muslim intellectuals wanted a seperate entity of Pakistan in muslim majority areas of south asian region so as to preserve their heritage, customs and ensure their way of living, with religious minorities having full rights and freedom in a secular environment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.231.119.18 (talk) 17:46, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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