Talk:Twin-clutch gearbox
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[edit] Tidy Up discussion (Gear box types vs trade names)
This Dual-Clutch stub is very good (description). The term Dual-Clutch is a good generic term for what VW are calling DSG (and the manufacturer BorgWarner call DualTronic). Should the DSG and Dual-Clutch artcils be linked/merged or better matched to each.
My thinking is this: The new Dual-Clutch article should carry the in-depth explanation. The DSG article should detail the VW / BorgWarner usage in which models etc. (I am very new to WikiPedia, so go easy on me!)
Mark 23:00, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- I generally agree: link to DSG, but don't merge this w/ DSG -- or else it will be hard to separate again, as will eventually be necessary since Veyron, Koenigsegg, and some Porsche street-legalized 956/962's manufactured by Joest, Dauer, etc. already have diffeent DCT's than the DSG, and more automakers also have their own DCT's in the works. This article can carry a short description of (and link to) each brand-name of DCT, such as the DSG page. And as more DCT's spring up, if their proprietary technology is markedly different, it's best to just link to a page for each company's DCT for in-depth descriptions if and when people provide that for each company. (P.S. I'm not new to wikipedia, but I'll be too lazy to sign up and login for as long as they allow it, LMAO.) --Jeff
Twin-clutch gearbox redirects to this page. How do I change the link in the box so that it will go directly to this page? —Gm1121983 9:37 20 April 2006
Okay, I moved the article to Twin-clutch Gearbox, and I moved the talk page accordingly. Does anyone know why the discussion tab is still in red print? —Gm1121983 17:28 20 April 2006
Well, why is it red!?—Gm1121983 18:44 20 April 2006
According to reference[1], the first dual clutch transmission was patented by Rudolph Franke, a Professor at The Darmstadt Technical University in 1940. It was applied and tested in a truck but never went into production. The following line in Wikipedia article could be incorrect - 'This type of gearbox was invented by Andolphe Kégresse just before the outbreak of World War II, but he never developed a working model'.
[1]. Matthes, B., 2005. 'Dual Clutch Transmissions - Lessons Learned and Future Potential', Society of Automotive Engineers, Paper #: 2005-01-1021.
[edit] twin clutch is not same as multi plate clutch
"Twin clutch" or "dual clutch" contains two clutches that can be connected to for exampel odd/even gears. Twin clutch is not the same as a "multi plate clutch" which is one clutch with multiple plates connected to one shaft. For eample the Koenigsegg CCX has a multi disc clutch and not a twin clutch and should therefore not be mentioned on this page even if it's multi plate clutch contains two discs.
Each of the two clutches in a twin clutch can contain multiple clutch discs as they do in for example the VW DSG.
Another form of twin clutch is the combination of transmission clutch and power take off clutch. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.248.10.91 (talk) 19:52, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] basic info missing
a regular clutch, is needed for 1st and R?...other shifts are manually commanded but carried out by computer? Since there are two neutrals, the computer does something similiar to double-clutching when shifting? CorvetteZ51 13:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
How much does this help acceleration? Especially on turbo charged engines it should be of great benefit that you don't have to let go of the throttle, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.227.28.208 (talk) 14:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Today (June 6, 2008) Porsche announced that the new 911 will include the PDK. This is worth noting in the article. Reference: http://www.porsche.com/usa/aboutporsche/pressreleases/pcna/?lang=none&pool=international-de&id=2008-06-06-01 MisterRisky (talk) 15:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)