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Start-class because it needs more refs and is still sort of heavy on lists and tables. Top-importance within fashion because she was, as the article says, revolutionary. Daniel Case 17:26, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Hubris?

'Her style has dominated the runways for forty years.' Isn't that overdoing it JUST A BIT? ;)

How do we get 84.43.88.98 banned from editing this page? N0manarmy 02:23, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Set page back to original before previous edit changed it to something inappropriate  ;0 N0manarmy 18:53, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Srxcef 23:40, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

yeah this is someone Shouldn't this article be entitled "Twiggy" since nobody knows her by the name Leslie Horby? --Caponer 20:45, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

No because Leslie Hornby is her real name, duh. The page still comes up when you type in Twiggy. Jessica, good luck, but the modeling industry is a long shot. If you think you look like Twiggy perhaps you should audition for Americas Next Top Model, where Twiggy is a judge.

First off, Jessica is in the UK, so I don't think she'll be trying out for America's Next Top Model. :P Also, Jessica... I hope for your sake that you keep in better physical shape than Twiggy. She was essentially the source of the modern anorexic model cliché. It's not healthy, and it's not attractive either. Whatever the case, though, I wish you luck. --Kuronekoyama 03:51, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

As a matter of fact, Twiggy WAS healthy. Like her, I have extremely high metabolism and no matter how hard I try, I simply can NOT gain weight, and I HATE it. I eat more than most of my friends, I love food, and I could never even imagine depriving myself of something so essential [and delicious :) ]. I hate it when people think that you can't be skinny and healthy at the same time. What's unhealthy is for people to think they have to starve themselves so that they can be skinny. People were created differently for a reason, and everyone isn't supposed to be the same weight. Unfortunately, there are so many people in this world that think they are fat, and people have created the idea that being skinny is altogether unhealthy and unattractive just so those people would quit starving themselves, which I find offensive because I can't help that I'm skinny, and neither could Twiggy. So because she pursued her dreams and became a famous model that people looked up to, she gets blamed for people trying to look like her when she couldn't even help it. Aren't people these days trying to get everyone to accept ALL body types? Well there is nothing wrong with being NATURALLY thin and I find it unfair that naturally thin people can't go out in public without being stereotyped as unhealthy or someone with an eating disorder and calling them unattractive just to make OTHER people feel better about themselves. I really hope people will start to think twice about what they are saying when they don't even know what they are talking about. I mean, I understand and COMPLETELY support that its not at all right for people to go on all these extreme diets and literally kill themselves just so they can look thin, but its still wrong of them to categorize every skinny person on this earth as one who is unhealthy or starves themselves. There is a BIG difference between people who are naturally thin, and people who will do ANYTHING to themselves to be skinny. So tell me this, is it HEALTHIER to eat nutritious food whenever you're hungry but still weigh less than 100 pounds or to pig out junk food so you can weigh average. I personally have no interest in clogging my arteries and increasing my chances of other serious illnesses just so I can APPEAR healthier and make other people happy. You can't tell how healthy someone is when you don't even know them. So yes, I know what its like to be told that your weight is WRONG, although its typically people being told they weigh too much, instead of not enough. YOU may not understand it, but i really think that when it comes down to it, its not about being SKINNY, its about being average [cough cough CONFORMITY], and its JUST as offensive to be told you don't weigh enough as it is to be told you weigh too much. Next time you want to prove a point, please try and do so without putting someone else down, because like I said, i'm pretty sure its just as rude to call someone unattractive for being UNDERweight as it is to call them unattractive for being OVERweight [not to mention falsely accusing them of malnutrition]. --206.124.222.79 23:14, 29 August 2006 (UTC) - Terri.

I've moved the page back to Twiggy, as the that's name name she's most commonly known by (see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people)). — sjorford (talk) 12:35, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Is 'animal welfare' paragraph copyright infringement?

The passage seems to be taken directly from the biography section of the official Twiggy site. -- MEFlora 00:06, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Waited a number of days for a reply to this. Decided to rework the paragraph. Found a source to verify the paragraph's claim although I'm not sure how reliable an interview quote from Twiggy really is. WP:RS wasn't particularly helpful to me on this matter. Perhaps the following links would be better? -- MEFlora 11:24, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Weight

I don't believe for an instant that she is 91 pounds... especially at 5'6. That gives her a BMI of 14.7. I know she's skinny, but not that skinny. Cite?

This Closer magazine article posted on the official Twiggy site might be a usable source? I wasn't able to confirm the existence of the article or author elsewhere on the web, however. The article lists her as 91 lbs (6 st and 7 lbs) in the late '60s (i.e. her late teens) and 20 lbs heavier in '02. -- MEFlora 13:14, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox change perhaps?

Would the use of an official wpp:bio infobox be more appropriate? Template:Infobox_Celebrity perhaps? -- MEFlora 13:14, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. This infobox gives height/weight/etc measurements without noting they are not current. She is not a currently a model, so the bio infobox should be used if any. And why are height/weight and such even considered as appropriate for infoboxes on biographies? Piperdown 20:54, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List should have punctuation?

In "Miscellany" the list:
("1967 Mattel issued a 'Twiggy Barbie' 1971 Film debut as an extra in Ken Russell's "The Devils" 1971 First leading role in features as Polly in Ken Russell's adaptation of Sandy Wilson's pastiche of 1920s musicals "The Boy Friend"; initial collaboration with Tommy Tune 1974 Made West End stage debut in "Cinderella"...."etc)
seems to have no punctuation. Is this normal? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.158.41.169 (talk) 21:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC).

I punctuated it, but much of it matches the filmography, with more information on cameos/appearances. Rename or cut? Ag1246 22:12, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
I changed it per the MOS to be an unitalicized list in my October 17, 2007 edit. The punctuation now matches that of several other chronologies I found.

[edit] Twiggy: Leslie or Lesley?

Various sources have different spellings for her first name.

An America's Next Top Model video clip has her standing next to a large "LESLEY HORNBY" graphic. Is that definitive? I guess you'd have to check her birth certificate.

The external links cited by the Wikipedia article are ambiguous:

  • IMDB uses "Leslie".
  • TV.com uses both "Lesley" and "Leslie".
  • The Swindle interview uses "Leslie".

On Google:

  • +"lesley hornby" +twiggy gets 14,800 hits.
  • +"leslie hornby" +twiggy gets 684 hits.

The Biography Channel uses "Lesley".

Twiggy (disambiguation) uses "Leslie".

If both spellings turn out to be valid, at one point there was an "Alternative Names" entry in the Wikipedia article's infobox. Wdfarmer 23:06, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mother's name

Isn't Twiggy's mother's name Helen Lydia "Nellie" Reeman and not, as stated, Nellie Lydia "Helen" Reeman. Women named Helen are sometimes called Nellie as a nickname or diminutive, not the other way round. Saintmesmin (talk) 09:18, 17 March 2008 (UTC)