User talk:Twerges

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[edit] I invite you...

To take a look at this [1].

Thank you. Randroide (talk) 11:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] January 2008

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Primal therapy. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Rjd0060 (talk) 06:02, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Zonbalance has not edited in two days. Give it a few more days, and we'll see if he has made an effort to discuss via the talk page. If not, then I will unprotect the page. Nishkid64 (talk) 17:34, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edits

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[edit] Excuse me

I failed to notice this edit of you [2]

You are welcome, Twerges.

IMO great articles can be created if well intentioned and civil editors with opposing views meet and work together.

If you need anything, please drop a line.

Randroide (talk) 22:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thoughts

Hi Twerges, I just wanted to comment on your statement that "I only object to the insertion of an edit warrior's personal observations into the page". I think the real issue is the reliability of the source in question, and I wanted to explain.

Since I see you're a computer programmer, let me use an illustrative example from that field.

Suppose that we include Donald Knuth's opinion in an article about algorithmic analysis, quoting The Art of Computer Programming. Perfectly valid, I'm sure you'll agree. Now suppose, for the sake of argument, that Knuth is an editor on WP (for all I know, he may be), and that he edits that article. Does this mean that it's no longer valid to include this quotation, for the sole reason that he also edits WP's page? That doesn't make much sense to me: the article shouldn't suffer just because of who edits it. (Of course, if there are good arguments for excluding it, and Knuth edit wars to insert it, then behavioural issues may need to be addressed.) The obvious conclusion, I think, is that the decision about whether to include Knuth's opinion should depend on whether his book meets WP:RS and WP:V, not on whether Knuth edits WP's page on the subject.

Now, it's rather improbable, but suppose for the sake of argument that Knuth also created an anonymous website which failed to meet the requirements of WP policies and guidelines (perhaps for similar reasons as this site). In this case, we shouldn't include opinions from this particular site. But again, that's not because the author also edits WP, it's because the site fails to meet WP policy.

Finally, on an unrelated note, "worse than placebo" may not mean "harmful". There's some evidence that certain placebos may be better than nothing. There's a very interesting book by Toby Murcott, entitled The Whole Story (ISBN 1-4039-4500-4), but I'm afraid that I can't remember the details. Jakew (talk) 23:35, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I just want to comment on your editing and comments twerges. I do not agree that the quote or link (re:cohort observations) should be removed and I believe you are presenting misleading arguments and accusing editors of duplicity and behavioural problems, in the effort to remove criticism from the section on primal therapy called criticism. Who else would be a more reliable or valuable source? if someone with years of experience with Janov's own center, who has no financial interests, and is no longer influenced by the social influence in the cult is not a valuable and rare source, then who would be? How many people are there out there who would be a better source? To me it is a clear indication of a cult that you can absorb all that negative information about your group and still spend hours on wiki trying to remove criticism of it. Aussiewikilady (talk) 06:26, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Just to let you know, Twerges, I've responded on my talk page. Best wishes, Jakew (talk) 11:26, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Your recent edit to the Arthur Janov article

Twerges, I have undone your recent edit to the Arthur Janov article. I think Aussiewikilady made the correct edit, and I was disappointed to see you reverse it. I'm not sure that this was a properly considered decision. It's standard in articles about controversial writers for criticism to be placed in separate criticism sections, not in accounts of their lives. Skoojal (talk) 00:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm deleted some of the additional entries in the criticism section. Material sourced to a personal blog is unacceptable for this, as is minor comments in unauthoritative reviews in unauthoritative sources. Pleasedont put them back. They are not in the least necessary. and I remind you about 3RR. It applies when you're right just as much as when you're wrong. DGG (talk) 03:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
There are some further comments about this on my talk page. DGG (talk) 23:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC), and you might want to enable your email, or to email me from my user page. DGG (talk) 02:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)