Talk:Tweeter
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Since i am sure some clueless individual will try and revert my edits here are explinations:
The first line in the axed paragraph about ribbons didn't make sense, because waveguides have been around for longer than ribbons have to control the polar pattern. The rest was misinformed marketing dribble. See: http://www.zaphaudio.com/nondomes/
For some real tests and information on non-dome performance.
"lack of coloration/ringing" is a result of the properties driver designers look for.
Deleted a bit about size since it repeated itself.
Moved the ring radiator bit to dome since i have never seen a cone one.
Horn to bottom since it refers to "those above". "
Removed the "fixing dented tweeters" because wikipedia is not a how to guide. Noodle snacks 01:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
updated the page to add info and be consistent with "woofer". I deleted some text which had more to do with speaker building than tweeters. Someone needs to add an entry under "electrostatic speaker" and "Berylium". I know there is never agreement on audio, but we have to keep this simple and within the casual viewers needs. Cheers! Pjay99 17:32, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
The section titled "Hertz and how it relates to tweeters" is horrible. There is no information in it specific to tweeters themselves and is little more than a discussion of a unit of frequency. It makes no sense to keep it. Palindromica 19:14, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Anybody disagree that the "Ring Radiator Tweeter" section should just disappear? I could do a heavy edit to remove the ad copy, but it really doesn't deserve its own section anyway. Rivertorch 05:51, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- Delete it in a fire. Heck, I'll do it now. — Dark Shikari talk/contribs 01:36, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
Just looked at the edit history, that ring radiator section was crap, however i think its possible they they do earn a mention, however polk audio didn't invent the concept, i believe the tweeters were made and designed by http://www.tymphany.com/datasheet/printview.php?id=112 vifa] (now peerless v-line), As another example, many sonus faber speakers use ring radiators based upon scan speak ring radiators. [1] is somewhat out of date, but does list several more speakers using those tweeters. I'll leave it up to someone else to decide. Noodle snacks 04:53, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Compression Drivers
Most PA type speakers for the professional audio market utilise compression drivers, mated to high frequency waveguides for dispersion control. This article needs a section added for them, i have yet to find a good description for them however. Noodle snacks 04:53, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- See the horn tweeter section? Rivertorch 11:31, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Tweeter Edit Reversion by nishkid64
As left on nishkid64's user talk page, regarding a reverted edit.
I made two edits to the tweeter page, which you quickly removed, citing vandalism, indicating a clear lack of knowledge and/or experiance on your part, or a simple misunderstanding as to the two methods detailed, which i will explain below:
- Method 6: Remove the dome/voicecoil assembly from the magnet assembly, where this is possible, then push dome out from rear
Many hifi tweeter allow the dome and voicecoil assembly to be removed from the magnet, allowing clear access to the dome from the rear. Whilst this ability is designed to allow replacement of a damaged voice coil, it can also be used in order to push the dome out from the rear. I have used this method on tweeters from seas, peerless, peerless v-line (formerly vifa) and scan speak, and i believe that it is possible with many other hi-fi tweeters as well. Using the example of a seas 27tdfc:
http://www.seas.no/Product%20bilder/27TDC.jpg
The four torx screws in the center can be removed, allowing access. This is clearly a valid and useful method for repairing dome indentations.
- Method 7: "Kiss" the tweeter, sealing around the dome with the lips, then sucking.
I suspect this is why you reverted the edit, however the method works extremely well for a large number of soft dome tweeters. It works on the same principle as the vacumme cleaner method, however the suction is controlled by your lungs, the lips seal around hte edge of the dome, and suck, and out they pop.
I will revert your revertion, if you have any further gripes please talk to me about them on my talk page, or on the talk page for tweeters, I will also post this comment on the user talk page.
Noodle snacks 02:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: Shouldn't that entire section just be removed? Wikipedia is not a how-to guide. So why is it necessary to have such a section in this article? Metros232 02:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- Comment: I do agree here, however if the section is not to be deleted there is no harm in making improvements either, if it is going to be removed a link to a good guide or forum thread on fixing pushed in domes would be a good move, it is likely that someone might come to this page searching on how to fix a pushed in tweeter (quite a common problem) Noodle snacks 04:53, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Photo of Ribbon Tweeter
I believe that the Philips in the photo is not an accurate representation of the ribbon type driver. I have seen this speaker before, and have reason to believe that it is not really a ribbon driver. I suggest using a photo of an audiophile-grade speaker for this snippet.
[edit] Repair
Wiki isnt a how to, but AFAIk that doesnt preclude including relevant material that people _could_ use in a how to way if they chose. Repair of tweeters (and other speakers) is all part of a days work for many people, so its relevant, and I dont see a need to exclude it. OTOH it needs to be presented in an encyclopaedic fashion rather than as a 'how to do this in 8 steps' kind of thing.
So I'll start something encyclopaedic and wait to see what ya think. Tabby (talk) 05:59, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Bullet tweeter
This article is missing information on the bullet tweeter. Unfortunately although I know of them (my system uses horn loaded bullet tweeters), I do not know anything useful about them, so I haven't added them to the article. But, perhaps someone who does can add a mention? Thanks --JeffryJohnston (talk) 18:09, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Edit: Just took one of my tweeters apart. It appears to be a flat piezo disk approx 1" in diameter with a 1 1/2" diameter paper cone glued to the middle of it (the cone is passive, it does not have any wires, etc, attached, just the piezo). The piezo and cone assembly seems to be allowed quite a bit of movement, it almost seems as if the piezo is attached by a small spring on the back (or is just held in place by stiff wires?). But, I cannot see behind the piezo to verify so those (spring?/wires?) are just guesses. --JeffryJohnston (talk) 18:40, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
- Very interesting, although we can't use your findings for the article. We probably don't need to mention bullet tweeters in the article at all if they're only a minor variation on the piezo theme. Rivertorch (talk) 04:48, 18 May 2008 (UTC)