Talk:Tuvan People's Republic
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Given that "Tannu Tuva" is far more common in English, why not use that instead of the completely obscure "Tuvinian People's Republic" (which I've never even heard of before)? Stan 04:52, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
Does anyone have any information about the area formerly known as Tannu Tuva in 2005? Would be an interesting addition to the article...
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[edit] Tuvans
Neither in the article 'Tannu Uriankhai' nor in this article about the republic here, which is explicitly named 'Tuvinian People's Republic', I found any note about the tuvinian people, not even a link. Can somebody shed light on them? Are they mongols or turks now? And what about the history of the land and the people called 'Uriankhai' from the Khanate of Ghengis on? Truchses 19:55, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
- Have you tried Tuvans? That seems to be the link you are looking for... Also, the main article about the modern republic is located at Tuva. Let me know if you need anything else.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:59, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Tuvan Stamps
I read somewhere that Tuvan stamps are among the few which are more valuable used than unfranked. Is this correct (and are there any others?) Jackiespeel 18:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Correct name?
Is this the correct name for the article? The English adjective form for Tuva is usually "Tuvan" (cf. Tuvan language, Tuvans). Tuvinian is certianly used some but Tuvan seems to be more common. (Check the external links list at Tuva for some examples.) Should the article be at Tuvan People's Republic or People's Republic of Tuva then? — AjaxSmack 07:57, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- I trust this name is the one that's been used in English language academic literature on the subject (as a quick search in Google Books would attest). Such a discrepancy is nothing unusual, by the way (cf. Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic and Belarus). "Tuvan People's Republic" or "People's Republic of (Tannu) Tuva" are used as well, although they do not seem to be as common. In any case, you might want to ask around here to clear this up. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 14:28, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Good question. Let me look up in my sources... --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 18:16, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- While you are at it, could you also check Tuva Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, please?—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
From the articles in The Tuvan Manual:
- Tuvan People's Republic, Tuvan ASSR - Tuva by Michael Underdown
- Tannu-Tuvinian People's Republic & Tuvinian People's Republic, Tuvinian ASSR & Tuvan ASSR - From The Great Soviet Encyclopedia translated by William Dougherty
- Tuvan People's Republic - The Tuvans by L.P. Potapov (a translation I think by Potapov of a chapter in Narody Sibiri 1956
Note there was also a Tuvan Autonomous Oblast before it became an ASSR. So in The Tuvan Manual I couldn't find any 'of Tuva' usage and the adjective Tuvan vs. Tuvinian seems variable. --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 19:00, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, I hate when this happens :( Anyway, my suggestion would be to submit a move request to "Tuvan" for all three articles (for consistency sake) and create a network of redirects for other uses.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 19:11, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Additional note: The translation of Otto Maenchen-Helfen's Journey to Tuva uses Tuvan People's Republic. --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 19:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
In that case, let's do it...
[edit] Requested move
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The result of the proposal was move. JPG-GR (talk) 19:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
More common adjectival form (cf. Tuvan Autonomous Oblast, Tuvans, Tuvan language). See discussion above. — AjaxSmack 00:14, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
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- Support, if only for consistency sake alone.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 15:19, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Support based on arguments above.--Cam (talk) 22:43, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- Support with suggested redirects due to the variability in English academic usage. --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 19:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Discussion
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