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[edit] Vandalism

Removed the reference to Luke Harrop in the 'Notable Events' section. No sources are quoted. Entry was written subjectively and the 'conclusion' was objectionable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Em2007 (talk • contribs) 11:38, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Will whoever wrote 'It's basically a bunch of stupid niggers waving their penises at tourists' not do it again or else... 08:20, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Does anybody know anything about the proposal that was floated a while back to somehow associate the T&C with Canada? - user:Montrealais

Take a look herehttp://www.craigmarlatt.com/craig/canada/provinces&territories/turks_and_caicos.html - it says the proposal has bounced off. Jeronimo

Isn't {msg:Commonwealth_of_Nations}} and {msg:Crowncolonies}} a bit redondant? The later is contained in the former. Why use both? Smartcowboy

"the governor appointed by the monarch" Is the governor actually appointed by the monarch or rather by the British government? Perhaps "the governor appointed by the british government on behalf of the monarch" would be better. Danfranklin

Actually, the governor is really appointed by the monarch. In the 18th-19th centuries, the choice would have been solely influenced by the british government, but in this case, I guess the T&C legislature has a much greater influence than the british one on the choice of governor. "appointed by the monarch on behalf of the parliament" is a more correct description than the inverse. UnHoly 20:48, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] From Wiktionary

I was by-chance on Wiktionary, and saw this load of unwikified stuff appear. I dunno if its good shit or not, but if it figures, then you can bung it somewhere

(Text that was transwikied to Religion in the Turks and Caicos Islands, per Wiktionary RFD discussion, redacted. Uncle G 23:28, 2005 May 16 (UTC))

--Thewayforward 15:24, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Pronounciation?

I'm going to assume "Turks" is pronounced the same as the nationality/ethnicity, but how are you supposed to pronounce the other one? Where's the accent, and for that matter how's it syllablized? Anyone know and willing to share? Thanx 68.39.174.238 23:29, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Origin of the name?

It would be nice to explain how the islands got their name. Funnyhat 20:34, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Turks?

I am a Turk, and I would like to know how the islands got that name, too.

I am also wondering it...
Source Page
The popular story is the name Turks being derived after the indigenous Turk's Head "fez" cactus [1]; and the name Caicos, a Lucayan term "caya hico," meaning string of islands.
A more romantic, origin of the name is a reflection of the Islands' pirate history, when 17th and 18th century pirates used the islands as hideouts and preyed upon the passing Spanish treasure ships bound for Europe. The term "Turk" for a pirate stemmed two centuries earlier when the Ottoman Empire dominated the Mediterranean and Turkish corsairs harried European Atlantic shipping, thus translated "Turks" Islands becomes "Pirate" Islands!
my note: "CAICO" is similar in pronunciation to Turkish word "KAYIK", meaning small ship, boat...

The point is Turks didn not made fez they imported it from Morroco

True, but the guy who named the cactus thought the fez was Turkish, since that was the common belief in Europe at that time (and still is, btw).

[edit] External links

Do we really need the "Commercial Tourism Guides" section? Too many of the external links look like spam to me. Wmahan. 05:04, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

I've been itching to remove them...I'll take a few of the more suspect ones out for now. Mindmatrix 14:01, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you. I just removed a few more. Wmahan. 17:22, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I took out the section - it doesn't add encyclopedic value and becomes a magnet for linkspam. --Siobhan Hansa 15:40, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Union with Canada

Ref this:

  • For the islands to join Canada as a full province would require amending the Canadian constitution, which is considered highly unlikely. The last new province, Newfoundland and Labrador, was brought into the country in 1949 by an act of British Parliament. Joining as a territory would be easier, as territories can be created by an act of federal law.

This suggests that it would take another British act to join Turks and Caicos to Canada. I thought the Canadian constitution had been repatriated, and it was now purely a matter for Canadians to amend their constitution. JackofOz 06:06, 31 July 2006 (UTC)


I think it implies that the entry of Newfoundland was easier because it could simply be enacted by the British government, as opposed to a constitutional change. The Newfoundland reference acts almost as an answer to an unasked question.

Newfoundland and Labrador is NOT the last province -- Nunavut. ~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sofocleus (talk • contribs) 16:01, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Nunavut is not a province, it is a territory. The creation of a territory is relatively easy as it only requires an Act of Canadian Parliament. However, the creation of a province would require a constitutional amendment, which is fairly difficult under Canadian law. Admitting a new province, I believe, would require all 10 existing provinces to agree plus the federal government and probably a nation-wider referendum. Getting all the provinces in Canada to agree on anything is very difficult, which makes any constitutional amendment highly unlikely for the time being. --Lesouris 04:07, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


I think one large issue that is missing from this section is what the local people of the islands think of this idea. Do they like it? Do they care? Are they completely against it? Do they know that this discussion exists? -Anon from Montreal Oct.27.2007

[edit] Area

There seems some discrepancy in the area figures quoted on this page. The box says 417 km². The geography section says 616.3 km². And just to add a bit more variety, the CIA Factbook says 430 km². Does anyone have a definitive figure? Matt 20:37, 9 November 2006 (UTC).

  • Some more:
[2] says 193 square miles (= 500 sq km)
[3] says 497 sq km
Seems no-one knows. Matt 12:37, 11 November 2006 (UTC).

It depends on whether one measures to the low water mark or the high water mark, and whether or not uninhabited islands are included. The UN and CIA Factbook only include inhabited islands. --Polaron | Talk 15:36, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Right. My view is that unless specifically stated otherwise, area should be measured to the high water mark, and should include all islands whether inhabited or not. Areas below high water cannot really be considered "land", and there is no justification at all for excluding unihabited islands. In any case, the substantial difference between the two figures currently given in the article needs explaining. Unfortunately I still don't know what the correct area should be, according to my definition, since none of the sources that I can find explain how they are defining it. Ho-hum. Matt 23:21, 11 November 2006 (UTC).
The official source, the TCI Lands and Survey Department, gives a land area figure of 616.30 km² (above the high water mark) and 948.23 km² above the low water mark. The area figures for every single island in the territory are also given in [4]. Based on these figures, I determined the areas of the Districts of the Turks and Caicos Islands.--Ratzer 19:58, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed WikiProject

There is now a proposed WikiProject for the Caribbean area, including Turks and Caicos Islands, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Caribbean. Interested parties should add their names there so we can determine if there is enough interest to start such a project in earnest. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:05, 13 December 2006 (UTC)