Talk:Turkmenistani presidential election, 2007

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Contents 1 merge tag 2 Turkmen names 3 Candidates 4 article name 5 Full results?

[edit] merge tag

I am replacing the merge tag-it is against wikietiquette to unilaterally remove merge tags without discussion, whether it passes or not, it should be discussed. I am not saying the articles must or will be merged, just that it is a suggestion, and merits discussion before just some single user removes the tag. And NightStallion is the one that put the cite tag on RPT, I just linked them as see also. Chris 19:30, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

There's no reason given by you why we should link to them. If you think it's the most important opposition party, *state it* and *cite it*. And we won't merge it, of course, because we've got articles for all important national elections (at least in recent years, the ones before that are still something on the to-do list). —Nightstallion (?) 21:00, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

The suggestion is so dumb it doesn't warrent discussion. These elections aren't going to be "democratic," they're going to be "democratic according to the standards set by the great leader" or whatever the acting president said.

Secretary of Funk, the suggestion that the elections will mean anything? Or the suggestion of merging? Please clarify. Chris 01:16, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Both. I meant it's dumb to suggest an article about an opposition party should be merged with this one since there's no reason to believe opposition parties will even be able to take part in these elctions. The Secretary of Funk 22:14, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

So, Chris, two questions:

• Any actual *reasons* why you want to merge this?
• Any actual (citeable) *reasons* for the link? I'm not opposed to having the link here, but if it's the most important opposition party, we should state and cite this claim. —Nightstallion (?) 12:08, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay, the article was changed a little while ago so it had the full quote about the elections being "democratic." Now it's been changed back just to say democratic. Why? How could giving the full quote of the acting president be biased? It's very POV to just say their going to be democratic because the leader said so. Kim Jong Il says his country is Democratic. Would we just plainly state that North Korea is democratic because "Democratic" is in the country's official name though? 209.244.187.94 02:23, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Turkmen names

I've tried to find out the correct spelling of all those names. Not an easy task, but I think it's correct now. I wonder if Oraz Garajaýew is the same one as the Orazmyrat Garajayew cited here: [1]. The same site speaks about a Gurbanguly Malikgulyyewic [Berdimyradow], and I wonder if it's the same as Gurbanguly Berdimuhammedow. I think it is and the redactors of the site didn't know his exat surname. Švitrigaila 21:36, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Great work in getting the names correct, sincere thanks from a fellow pedant. There's some more to correct now, including the name of the city (Abadan or Owadon or whatever) and more names... —Nightstallion (?) 22:13, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

And what about Saparmyrat Nyýazow's name himself! I guess I must correct every Turkmen name before I can try to rename this one, or else a lot of people her will scream... I've found nothing about "Owadon" Švitrigaila 22:23, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Mh, I'm afraid you might fail to influence that one's name, as he's certainly known by the russicised version in the international and English media... Still, good luck. :) —Nightstallion (?) 22:26, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Like all the other ones. For example Islom Karimov is called Islam Karimov on every media. Švitrigaila 22:40, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, as I've said and as you well know, I share your opinion. —Nightstallion (?) 22:44, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

[2] teaches us the ride between Abadan and Asgabat lasts 45 minutes. It's a suburb of the capital then and it's a town of Ahal region. [3] shows Abadan is the correct Turkmen spelling. And [4] indicates that Oraz Garajaýew (mayor of Abadan) and Orazmyrat Garajaýew proposed here for the post of governor of Ahal region are one same person. Švitrigaila 15:08, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Candidates

The IHT claims that Durdy Durdyýew is not a candidate, but Mukhammednazar Gurbanov, head of the Karabekaul district, is... Can we get a real candidate list from somewhere, preferably soon? —Nightstallion (?) 12:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm afraid it's still very wolly. The BBC itself, which usually loses no time giving an information, has published nothing since this article. I think it's a proof there's a great lack of serious information. However, the Turkmen spelling of the two added names is : Akmyrat Rejepow and Muhammetnazar Gurbanow. Švitrigaila 14:54, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I've added the info to the article. —Nightstallion (?) 15:52, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

There are two more sources confirming Gurbanow BakuToday and RFE/RL. I'll revise the text. —Nightstallion (?) 22:17, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] article name

Shouldn't this in fact be the "Turkmenistani presidential election, 2007," seeing as not all citizens of Turkmenistan are ethnically Turkmen? I'm not positive about the precedent on this, so I would like a second opinion before I move it. Lesnail 00:54, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

This is an issue regarding all the Central Asian articles that should be discussed in full somewhere, yes, as common practice seems to differ. —Nightstallion (?) 12:55, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

any suggestions on where would be a good place to put that discussion? Lesnail 04:14, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Possibly at Wikipedia:WikiProject Central Asia? If you do start a discussion, please let me know, okay? Thanks! —Nightstallion (?) 12:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

I'd prefer to keep the name of the country intec: Presidential election in Turkmenistan, 2007. Švitrigaila 23:41, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

That would completely upset our current election articles standards for no real reason, and is therefore pretty much out of the question as far as I'm concerned, sorry. —Nightstallion (?) 07:52, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

This discussion is now taking place at Wikipedia:WikiProject Central Asia. Please give your input there. Lesnail 00:23, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Full results?

Anyone seen 'em? —Nightstallion (?) 12:55, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

If they exist... ;o) Švitrigaila 17:13, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

They are here : http://www.turkmenistan.gov.tm/politika/pol&ofic.htm It's written:

"11 февраля 2007 года состоялись всенародные выборы Президента Туркменистана. Для проведения выборов в Туркменистане были созданы велаятские, Ашхабадская городская, окружные и участковые избирательные комиссии, 65 избирательных округов и 1625 избирательных участков. В списки избирателей было внесено 2677589 человек. В голосовании приняло участие 2641525 человек, или 98,65 процента избирателей. В соответствии с протоколами велаятских и Ашхабадской городской избирательных комиссий за кандидатов на должность Президента Туркменистана проголосовало: за Атаджикова Аманяза - 85 16 голосов, или 3,23 процента избирателей, против - 2554 078 или 96,69 процента, за Бердымухаммедова Гурбангулы - 2357120 голосов, или 89,23 процента, против - 282174 , или 10,68 процента, за Гараджаева Оразмырата - 40821 голосов, или 1,55 процента, против - 2598473 или 98,37 процента, за Гурбанова Мухамметназара - 62672 голосов или 2,37 процента, против - 2576622 или 97,54 процента, за Нурыева Ишангулы - 62830 голосов, или 2,38 процента, против - 2 576 464 или 97,54 процента, за Поманова Аширнияза - 34733 или 1,31 процента, против - 2604561 или 98,60 процента избирателей."

Švitrigaila 17:35, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I googled for the translation and made a template for it, although the figures might be off, could someone double check it for me? Mikebloke 02:50, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Great work, thanks! —Nightstallion (?) 12:21, 16 February 2007 (UTC)