Talk:Turkish Kurdistan
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This article was nominated for deletion on 24/3/2006. The result of the discussion was keep. |
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[edit] OK - it is official
Articles like that show still Wikipedia is an open battlefield of propaganda... pitty for an idealistic knowledge project... I left wikipedia for some months - still the same! Happy new year to all by the way --Gokhan 08:37, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Why?
If this term is an unofficial name and has no meaning for some, why did you write this article and give permission for discussion in this page? Some users gave "source"s about this term, but i think they are also unobjective resources. Moderators should review this article...
"The term has no administrative basis and is very open to controversy. Some sources claim that this region is the larger and northern part of the greater cultural and geographical area in the Middle East known as Kurdistan." (from main article)
- It does not need to be official. The subject just needs to be notable. If it is not notable, we can delete the article. denizTC 19:30, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
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- In order to see whether it is notable or not, I suggest check out books.google.com [1] with 623 citations and also scholar.google.com with 206 citations [2]. This shows the frequent use of this term in academic circles, hence such a notable subject can not be deleted.Heja Helweda 21:40, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
- I think I was talking generally DenizTC 16:18, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- Why is this called 'Turkish Kurdistan' when 'Syrian Kurdistan' redirects to Kurds in Syria? Shouldn't we have some sort of consensus on these article names? 155.188.183.5 19:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
- You have a good point there. You can start a merger proposal if you want to. If we assume good faith, it might be that the term Turkish Kurdistan is used common enough, whereas Syrian Kurdistan is not. DenizTC 19:29, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- Deniz, it's something that has been discussed before (check the archives). Basically, the idea of a "Turkish Kurdistan" is well enough used and clearly enough defined that it's a notable concept. It doesn't mean that we approve or disapprove of it, but it's significant enough that it's worth documenting who uses it, what it means and why it's used. -- ChrisO 22:31, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- You have a good point there. You can start a merger proposal if you want to. If we assume good faith, it might be that the term Turkish Kurdistan is used common enough, whereas Syrian Kurdistan is not. DenizTC 19:29, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- Why is this called 'Turkish Kurdistan' when 'Syrian Kurdistan' redirects to Kurds in Syria? Shouldn't we have some sort of consensus on these article names? 155.188.183.5 19:44, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
- I think I was talking generally DenizTC 16:18, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
- In order to see whether it is notable or not, I suggest check out books.google.com [1] with 623 citations and also scholar.google.com with 206 citations [2]. This shows the frequent use of this term in academic circles, hence such a notable subject can not be deleted.Heja Helweda 21:40, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
What is the range of this article? I am not sure the content of section "Modern history" fits here, it needs to be rewritten. Also something historical becomes suddenly something modern. DenizTC 07:35, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merging
I don't believe it's necessary to merge the "History of the Region" and "Modern History" sections into other articles. Losing the two sections would not benefit this article. Both appear to give an adequate summary overview of the subjects and each links to a longer article. They could probably be condensed a little, but otherwise they seem to be an appropriate use of a spinout summary - see WP:SPINOUT for guidance. -- ChrisO 09:53, 7 May 2007 (UTC) There is no Turkish Kurdistan in Turkey or in the world. Turkish Kurds are a small tribe living in Turkey like Zazas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayhan62 (talk • contribs) 13:37, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Erzurum??
Erzurum and kurds? Come on...
[edit] Impact of Kosovo independence over the Turkish Kurdistan
It will be interesting to have an insight analysis related to the impact of Kosovo secession from Serbia on Kurdistan. Now, the Kurds in Turkey are having THE precedent and the Turkish Government just recognized that precedent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.105.123.228 (talk) 20:48, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
