Talk:Turkish Hezbollah
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[edit] Page name
What is up with this pages name? Is (turkish) included to signify that this group is active in Turkey? If so the brackets should come after the name.--nixie 00:43, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Hizbullah's within Turkey
There is another Hizbullah operating in the Kurdish areas of the Turkish Republic. Are there two articles on the same group? If not some one with the knowledge should clarify the relations between the two groups. Bertilvidet 10:29, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Lebanon
The article states "Kurdish Hizballah or Turkish Hizballah has no official organic ties with either the Lebanon-based Islamist group also named Hizballah or its offshoots throughout the Middle East. Notwithstanding a few similarities in terms of ideology, methods and goals, they are essentially very distinct terrorist groups."
and then goes on with a whole load of stuf about Lebanese Hezbollah.
Surely if the first statement is true the rest is irrelevant? AndrewRT 20:58, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Group
thies Hizbullah is not Turkish-Kurdish, thies is Kurdish islamic Group
[edit] Title?
I know that I am going on to some sensitive ground here, but most of the refs refer to this group as "Turkish Hezbullah".. Shouldn't we refrain from interpreting the sources? Besides, to my personal knowledge, this group incorporates many Turkish elements, maybe in a majority at the moment. I might be wrong, but I think that the most common name for this group in English is "Turkish Hezbollah" and not "Kurdish Hezbollah"..
Here are the google results:
- "Kurdish Hezbollah" - wikipedia : 533 hits [1]
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- (Some of the hits are from Wikipedia redirects like answers.com)
- "Turkish Hezbollah" - wikipedia : 10,500 hits [2]
I don't want anyone get hyped over this, but I will be moving the page per the results above. It is not even clear if these people refer to themselves as "Kurdish Hezbollah" (if they had, then there would be a different argument). However, as things currently stand, the overwhelming Google search points us towards the neccessity of the move. Cheers! Baristarim 03:32, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- On second thought, "Hezbollah (Turkey)" could also be used.. Will have to think about it.. Baristarim 03:40, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- In fact, Hezbollah (Turkey) might be better. Any comments? If there are no objections eventually I will move it in a couple of days. Baristarim 04:03, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- I guess that nobody has objected after 3 months :) I will do the move...
Look at the first few words on this, it is called Hizbullahî Kurdî, or the Kurdish hezbollah, the Google hits mentioned are just the result of amateur reference to this hezbollah in contrast to the more well know Hezbollah in Palestine/Syria/Lebanon
the Reason for this is that most terroristic activity by this hezbollah has been committed in Turkey and against Turkish government, but this movement does not identify itself as Turkish but, well of course Kurdish, that's the point of this whole movement, why harm Turkey, if you think you are a stakeholder in the future of Turkey? They only look forward to a Kurdish future in the region,
Think about it.. I think it should be in Kurdish Hezbollah
- —-— .:Seth Nimbosa:. (talk • contribs) 07:56, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
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- Users must understand that this group is a mix of Turks and Kurds as sourced on the article and it is not a major group in Turkey. The Turkish Hezbollah (some Turkish citizens who want a Islamist country) in Turkey which in parallel have some similar aims with this group but more with the MHP. There can be misunderstanding that can arose because of this title. But calling it Kurdish Hezbullah just because it is majority Kurds is not correct, we don't even know if they identify themselfs as Kurdish.
- Özgūr Talk Hist 11:27, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
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- Hizbullahî Kurdî i think refers to a separate Hezbollah mostly active from the Kurdish-inhabited areas, further research may show two different Hezbollahs in Turkey, one Kurdish and the other primarily Turkish, but I am not an authority on this
- —-— .:Seth Nimbosa:. (talk • contribs) 10:15, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] sources
which of these sources designates Turkey anti-semitic terrorist state. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.196.250.222 (talk) 20:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC).
