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[edit] Warning
Somebody really made a mess of the main equipment section and it looks like a deliberate action. The article is unfortunately not accurate anymore and I will not bother to edit/correct it since I have a feeling that it will be botched again.
Warrior Soul (August 31, 2006)
[edit] Main Equipment
This section has been copied from my site (http://warriorsoul.4t.com) without permission. In order to adopt a more constructive way of action than removing the whole table, I simply added a link to my site in the "Sources" section. I am a researcher on the defence industries and accurately keep track of the changes in the inventory. I spend a lot of time and effort on updating the information provided and I am happy to see that a growing number of people are making use of it. However, I would highly appreciate it if people who use the information elsewhere would at least provide a link to my web site as the source. Should you wish to contact me personally, kindly follow the "Contact" link in my site.
Thank you.
Warrior Soul
[edit] History
So folks, I am updating this article. Aquilion 18:45, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
The history section is complete. Aquilion 17:42, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
- I find the modern translations of Ottoman terms a bit irritating. Why include the translation of "Ministry of War" when the given term is not what the Ottomans used (the correct term is "Harbiye Nezareti")?
[edit] F-5 2000 (under delivery) ??
This article says 46 "F-5 2000 (under delivery)". It appears to mean these are new aircraft that are being delivered now. However, the F-5 Freedom Fighter article says that the aircraft has been out of production since the 1970's. Are these refurbished/upgraded aircraft from another country? --rogerd 03:25, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
According to some unconfirmed and unnamed Turkish Procurement officials, Turkey is upgrading a further 46 F-5 at Tusas Aerospace Industries premises. In fact, there have also been sightings of F-5's entering the TAI facilities. But no official announcement as of today. Turkey has alot of F-5's in storage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.148.209.236 (talk) 05:31, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Haven't Turkish Air Force rank insigna?
[edit] WPMILHIST Assessment
This article could definitely benefit from in-line citations for the prose content (i.e. the "main section" above the listing of individual aircraft). Nice work on the infobox, btw, and a very nice photo! LordAmeth 14:47, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] New Aircraft list
Can we add a new Aircraft list. This is what i came up with but needs fine tuning and fixing.
| Aircraft and Helicopters | Versions | In service | Notes | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| F-35 Lightning II | A | 0 | (order for 100 F-35A approved on 12/12/2006, signed on 25/1/2007)[1] | |
| Unknown 5th Generation Combat Aircraft | Either Eurofighter Typhoon or F-35A | 0 | (Plans for the acquisition of at least 210 5th Generation Combat Aircraft, in order to satisfy the 640 planned, inclusive of the F-16 CCIP, F-4 2020 Terminator and the F-35)[2] | |
| F-16 C/D | C/D Block 30
C/D Block 40 C/D Block 50 C/D Block 50+ |
37
103 76 0 |
under CCIP modernization[3][4]
under CCIP modernization under CCIP modernization 30 Block 50+ aircraft will be built by TAI[5][6] |
|
| F-4 Phantom II | F-4E
2020 Terminator RF-4E |
71
52 32 |
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| Northrop F-5 | A/B
2000 |
14
45 |
upgraded by IAI with enhanced capabilities | |
| Airbus A400M | 10 | |||
| Lockheed C-130 Hercules | C-130B
C-130H |
7
6 |
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| Transall C-160 | C-160T | |||
| CASA CN-235 | VIP
EW Transport |
3
16 31 |
||
| Boeing 737 AEW&C | 4 | under construction, option for 2 more. | ||
| General Atomics GNAT-750 | 1 | |||
| Harpy | 107 | 500 km Range | ||
| Heron | 40 | 1000/3300 km Range | ||
| TIHA MALE | 18 | 1000 km Range Turkish Aerospace Industries | ||
| KC-135 Stratotanker | 7 | |||
| T-38 Talon | A | 69 | Received structural upgrade. | |
| Cessna T-37 | B
C |
58 | Received structural upgrade. | |
| SF-260 | D | 38 | ||
| T-41 | D | 28 | ||
| AS 532UL Cougar Mk1 | SAR
CSAR |
14
6 |
||
| Bell UH-1H Iroquois | SAR
EW |
15
4 |
[edit] weapon inventory list
[edit] F-16 IFF system related murders in Turkey added
Added a section about the F-16 fighter jet IFF system secret code hacking in Turkey and the three resulting murders of engineers by secret services. This was extensively published in November in the Hurriyet and also reported internationally, e.g. Tarik Demirkan wrote it up for respected hungarian HVG weekly newspaper [1]. 82.131.210.162 09:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
These are not facts, but rather stories fueling the Turkish nationalist pscyhe. The first engineer who committed suicide was a middle aged mechanical engineer, the second one was a classmate of mine in his late twenties, and the third was a fresh graduate who was a close friend of a co-worker. I do not know much about the first person, but the latter two did not knew each other. The second engineer was working at a different company owned partially by Aselsan, not at Aselsan, and he had joined that company only a few months earlier. The third engineer did not have the skill to achieve such reverse engineering. Although it is not clear why these people committed suicide, lack of reasoning should not lead us to conspiracy theories. There are no facts and this section should be removed. Or at least it might be noted that this theory was brought forward in a major Turkish newspaper as opposed the presenting it as fact. 213.139.195.162 (talk) 06:51, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Turkish Air Force
The Tuskish Army has ordered 51 T129 Agusta. Tai are making them.
They also have: 9 Bell AH-1W Super Cobra 32 Bell AH-1P/S Cobra 1 Bell TAH-1P Cobra (Combat Trainer) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.242.224.212 (talk) 15:55, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
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- They are already listed in the Turkish Army inventory, see the article Modern equipment and uniform of the Turkish Army. The Turkish Army operates the attack helicopters, not the Turkish Air Force. Res Gestæ Divi Augusti (talk) 01:37, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
