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[edit] Character Section: Real Syaoran/Clone Syaoran

Should we really differentiate this in the summary for the characters? It's perfectly all right for the main character article, but it's rather spoilery for people who aren't very far into the series and are reading the main series article for some background/general info. PeRiDoTs13 06:38, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

That is well What happens is that many people acted as if there were no difference between the two characters, and that's fine clarify that these are two different people, not just one.--190.78.118.108 22:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
But we should not use the spoilerific "REAL" and "CLONE" right in the title. There should be another way to differentiate them.--78.57.185.135 (talk) 23:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Japanese sites seem to use "Syaoran" (real) and "[Syaoran]" (clone) but that isn't quite good in a wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.36.229 (talk) 10:25, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Longest running series?

How come this is the longest running series if it started in May 2003 while xxxHolic starts in February. —Preceding unsigned comment added by David13579 (talk • contribs) 19:58, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Longest not by time but by story size. Till TRC, X was the longest runing series. Holic currently has 147 chapters and TRC has 176 already —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.57.185.135 (talk) 23:22, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Tsubasa Story Arcs?

There used to be an entire page dedicated to the story arcs of Tsubasa, and now that link is just being redirected to the Tsubasa main page, where there is absolutely no detailed information about the individual arcs. The individual story arc page was extremely helpful, with information on when each arc started, ended, and a mini plot summary. I don't understand why in the world it was merged with the main page, because that was a massive waste of time if Wikipedia's goal is to provide as much useful information about this topic as possible. - Fantastigalx3kim, 10:56 AM, 2008 May 11.

I need this page, how do I find it again? - 86.10.76.240 (talk) 16:03, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

The page was redirected because its beyond excessive plot and fan-opinion and original research. It has no place here, period. Wikipedia is not a plot guide, and such pages have been deleted in AfD repeatedly. We have episode lists and chapter lists to give brief summaries. Wikipedia's goal is not to provide as much "useful" information about this topic, it is to provide an appropriate amount of verifiable, real-world information about the topic, with only brief plot summaries and information necessary to give a reader a basic overview of the series for understanding the context of the real-world aspects.Collectonian (talk) 16:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

That's the thing, though. There are no longer any episode or chapter lists. Just the fact that someone had to ask where it went, just the fact that someone needed information about the story arcs proves that the information shouldn't have been merged. Perhaps an entire page about it was not necessary, but there's nothing about any of the chapters on the main Tsubasa page. And with an encyclopedia, like Wikipedia, isn't it best to have slightly more than needed than an entire chunk of basic information simply not there? - Fantastigalx3kim, 9:44 PM, 2008 May 20. —The preceding comment signed as by Fantastigalx3kim (talk • contribs) was actually added by 69.244.116.240 (talk • contribs) -

(edit conflict) The episode list is at List of Tsubasa Chronicle episodes. I do agree, that a proper chapter list needs to be done, rather than the short list of volumes in the media list. However, that is no reason to have a bad story arc page. I do not have access to the chapters myself, so I can not do more than make a shell for the chapter list with the lead, volume numbers, ISBNs, and starting references. If someone can come behind me to fill in the chapter names and cover characters (I can only identify a few not having read mot CLAMP media), I'd be quite willing to do the first part. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I've got immediate access to volumes 1 through 15, so I can help out to a certain extent. I do have to ask, though, why is it that you have read so little of CLAMP's work? It really is very excellent stuff. ;) —Dinoguy1000 16:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
LOL. I have read CCS (love love love) and seen X but not read the manga. I skipped Tsubasa after some early mixed reviews of the anime. Working on this article has made it seem more interesting, though :P I'll try to get the shell together tonight or tomorrow. A bit too wikistressed to do a good job right now. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 16:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Interesting... I haven't been able to read CCS yet, nor have I read or seen X (although I've seen an OVA version of it), but I think my first exposure to CLAMP was a few episodes of Angelic Layer. As for Tsubasa, it's really really good (I wish I could get my hands on more volumes, but I'm not sure if they've even been released in English past 16), although once the real Syaoran steps in, things can get a bit confusing (which is why I'm really glad Tokyopop weren't the ones that translated it, and am very satisfied with Dark Horse's job of it). That aside, depending on how bored I end up being, you may find that shell already started/mostly done. ^_~ —Dinoguy1000 17:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
LOL, that's cool too. :) I forgot, I have also seen Chobits. I wonder if my library has any volumes I can sample (like I really need to start another series...my poor bookcases shelves are already bending :P ) -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 18:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Cool, I haven't seen or read that one yet, either... How many series do you have volumes from? I don't actually own any, so I have to rely on the library and the regional request system (it can be quite frustrating waiting six or seven weeks for someone to turn a given volume in... And I've had at least two volumes disappear on me in transit =P ). Back to the main topic, I got bored enough to do the shell, have a look at List of Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle chapters. I haven't looked up any sources yet, but I'm gonna go fetch some volumes in a minute and start on the chapter lists. —Dinoguy1000 18:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Not counting the orders I have out at the moment, I have 467 manga volumes, and 12 light novel volumes, spread across four bookcases. 65 series are in there, plus a bunch of one shots. :) Cool beans on starting the list. Want me to add in the lead? -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 18:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
o_O Gah... That's got to be almost as much as I've read total! Now I'm starting to feel jealous... ;) Go ahead with the lead, I suck at writing them (the one serious effort I made to write a lead (List of Case Closed chapters) ended with me copying much of the lead off of other chapter lists and winging the rest =P ). —Dinoguy1000 19:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
LOL, now you know my secret ;) To get the hang of it, I started with some of our beautifully done FL lists and worked from there! -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 19:05, 21 May 2008 (UTC)