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I suggest moving this page to Tsotsi (movie), and rather leaving the main article to refer to describe the common english usage of the term (which has a gradation of meanings varying from something akin to "rascal"[1] to a hooligan or a young thug).

• "Mandela's tsotsi confession"

I see where you're coming from, but on the other hand Wikipedia is not a dictionary (Wiktionary is, though), so I don't think we will ever have an article about the word itself. On the other hand, if anybody ever writes an article about Fugard's book, I suppose we could then have Tsotsi (movie) and Tsotsi (book) articles, with this page becoming a disambiguation page. Until then, I'm satisfied with the naming as is. Regards, Elf-friend 08:50, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm... I suppose it would be better to keep the term as a Wikitionary entry, rather than a wikipedia one, unless it becomes more discursive (e.g. if someone carries out a more thorough investigation of Tsotsis in literature, history, etc.). Was just examining some other Wikipedia entries which seem to be candidates for Wiktionary. Faux pas hasn't been classified as such, but Gaffe has. The only thing which seems to distinguish Faux Pas substantially from a dictionary entry is the list of examples, which could be placed in a "list of" page, I suppose. Is there a concerted effort to "Wiktionarize" these types of entries (I'd imagine that many stubs would be ideal candidates for this sort of process) (Wurfing the Seb to find out...)? The User 21:36, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Answer - see: m:Transwiki. The User 21:42, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Have you guys actually WATCHED the movie? 2 Error in Plot Summarization? 3 Who is Gumboot? 4 Image Copyright Problem 5 WikiProject class rating 6 Other problems with references to characters

[edit] Have you guys actually WATCHED the movie?

This article contains a few factual errors. I'm not sure about the book, but the film doesn't say he's an AIDS orphan. Actually, he ran away from home; only his mother was sick (from whatever) and his father was an alcoholic. Since the book is old (based in the 60's?) this makes it even more unlikely that his mother had AIDS. His real name is later revealed to be "David". Vusi Mahlasela's only contribution to the sound track is that song "Silang mabele, gamang dikgomu" playing in the baby's mother's car.

Anyone want to fix it? Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 16:38, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

I have seen the movie many times! You are right, he isn't an AIDS orphan in a straightforward sense, but the film strongly suggests that his mother is dying of AIDS at the time he flees home. The film isn't set in the 60s, and there are AIDS references throughout (check out the banners in the station in the opening scenes). Lanspergius 17:35, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

but the film strongly suggests that his mother is dying of AIDS

Actually, I disagree with this. There is a suggestion about illness, OK, not AIDS, even though those banners in streets and stations. ♦ Pabix ^ℹ 13:28, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Just a note about how the article is written. I was confused when I read it, particularly the part that discusses the ending. In the version of the movie I watched there was only one ending. The way the article is written now makes it seem like the part about multiple endings is hearsay. Maybe a discussion about when the different endings were presented and which one is considered the true ending would make it seem more factual.

219.89.4.196 23:35, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Error in Plot Summarization?

Tsotsi is called David before he realizes his real name was actually David? Can anyone clear this up because I wouldn't understand how he would remember his real name until after the dream? --ShadowSlave 15:33, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I see, I forgot to rename one of the names in the plot. Sorry about that. --Kylohk 01:13, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Who is Gumboot?

The ending credits of the film mention someone named "Gumboot". Who is that character? May he be one of the policemen? --Kylohk 19:25, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Copyright Problem

When I first spotted this article, I was surprised to see the amount of copyright images (no less than 6 screenshots, which is way above the usual allowed level). I was even more surprised to find that 5 of them were uploaded with the GNU tag for self-made images... What is the procedure for getting these images deleted/re-uploaded? Goldfritter 08:43, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject class rating

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 19:57, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other problems with references to characters

The entry does a poor job of explaining who the characters are. It introduces names without attaching an appositive. Instead of writing "he followed David home" try "he followed David, the intended robbery target and owner of a BMW, home" -- appositives help us keep track of characters. THank you.