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[edit] Article does not appear at friends or when I deleted my browsers cache (and not logged in)

Hallo Nancy,

today I created an article about Coinside - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coinside

I have now the following problems: - when somebody else want to see the page then the article does not exists - when i am not logged in or when i deleted my browsers cache then the article does not exists

Could you please tell me the reason for it?

Thomas (ts1977) —Preceding unsigned comment added by tsb1977 (talk • contribs)

Good morning Thomas. What a strange problem. The article is definitely there and has never been deleted so that's nothing to do with it however the name is familiar to me - did you create it recently under a different user & perhaps spelled slightly differently? - I have been through my deletion logs and can't see it but perhaps it was someone else who deleted it so maybe you are looking under a different spelling? Are you trying to access it using the URL or are you searching from within Wikipedia? Is it still happening this morning? Kind regards, nancy ^(talk) 07:05, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi Nancy, thanks for your reply. Actually I am working in France and today, I used the purge function (Wikipedia:Purge) to refresh the page. It worked now here with my computer, even when I am not logged in. However my friend in Germany could not see the page. He had to use the purge function as well in order to see it. But he just used the search function for the article, and again, the page was not available. He purged again and it worked.

I am afraid that other users from other countries might have the same problems. Is it connected with the wiki-architecture?—Preceding unsigned comment added by tsb1977 (talk • contribs)

Thomas, I am afraid I am completely stumped - it seems to defy all logic! May I suggest that you try posting the question at the helpdesk as there are people there who know an awful lot more about the technical mechanics than I do and who may have an answer. I do hope you get it resolved, kind regards, nancy ^(talk) 21:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Did you try purging the cache? The article exists for me, both logged in and out using lynx and firefox —— nixeagle 21:47, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Its working, but search may take a bit for it to show up. The search function is not indexed in real time. Give it a few days, both wikipedia's search and google should pick it up. —— nixeagle 21:53, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks navysix. Google.com indexed already the coinside-article but when my german friends and the band use google by http://www.google.com/search?q=coinside+wiki then they see the right seach result. But when they click on the google-link from Germany (Hoyerswerda) then a wiki-page saying that the article does not exist. When they use the purge function then the article will appear. Here in France I can see the page without any problems. What about the wiki caching system? Is is different from country to country?

Theoretically no... but it could be an issue with their browsers. See WP:CACHE if you haven't looked already. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:51, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

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My friend deleted his IE caches files, closes all and opened all again, and tried to reload the with Ctrl + F5 - no success. Only the purge function is working. Are there other possibilities, technical ones?

(indent reset) I don't really know, but this sounds like an issue on your end. You might try asking at the tech village pump - they may be able to help you out there more. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 23:07, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Following the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coinside I also saw an empty page; when I clicked on "article", I saw the article like this. I then clicked "show preview", and when I now open the article, it appears as it should (well, actually, shouldn't, since the subject is irrelevant, but you get the idea...). This happened with both Mozilla and IE; it's not an issue on Tsb1977's end. Cheers, --NoCultureIcons (talk) 00:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

At the moment Wikimedia servers seem to have a serious caching problem. Logged in users get the articles from the data base output while not logged in users see only some cached pages from the squid servers. While the lag between cached and uncached pages was relatively low for a long time, it rose in some cases to several days. The next time this problem occurs try to purge the cache by using the URL parameter &action=purge --32X (talk) 09:26, 2 April 2008 (UTC)