Talk:Tsavo maneaters
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Killed by rifle. No record of which model. He had several. -Ken Keisel
need information if Patterson killed lions with rifle or shotgun. and which model. -FX_Shadowmaster
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[edit] Confirmed number of kills?
Most records state around 140, but they should be viewed with suspicion. There was a lot of boasting and exaggeration in those days. Patterson had every reason to exaggerate the totals. If the lions were killing for food alone then these numbers are probably four times the real total. -Ken Keisel
Following the first external link, I found a figure of a mere 28. However, the second one put it at 128. Most web search results gave figures between 130 and 140, so the latter seems to be correct. Does anyone know better? --Anshelm '77 00:41, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
Didn't these lions keep the heads of the men they killed in their cave? --69.67.229.90 05:00, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Re: Repatriation
Relax, lions aren't going anywhere, Field says
September 12, 2007
BY ANDREW HERRMANN Staff Reporter / aherrmann@suntimes.com
Field Museum officials Tuesday denied overseas news reports that Kenya is seeking the return of the Chicago institution's famed "Maneaters of Tsavo" -- a pair of now-preserved lions that killed about 140 railroad workers in Africa in the 1890s.
Citing separate sources, the BBC and the AFP news agency said the National Museums of Kenya want the stuffed creatures back.
The Field has owned the lions for more than 70 years.
Efforts to reach Kenya officials Tuesday were unsuccessful. But the BBC quoted National Museums of Kenya spokeswoman Connie Maina vowing to "use international protocols to repatriate them.
Also, Kenya Tourism Board spokeswoman Rose Kwena told the Agence France-Presse in Nairobi: "We will follow the right channels to get the remains of our maneaters back to us. They are part of our heritage and history and it is good to have them back.
The lions were shot and killed in 1898 by the Kenya railroad project's chief engineer, Lt. Col. John Henry Patterson. He sold the lion skins and skulls to the Field for $5,000 in 1924.
Following the reports, Field spokesman Greg Borzo said Field officials phoned Idle Omar Farah, director general of the state-owned National Museums of Kenya, and "he tells us it's not accurate and he ought to know .. . this is not their position.
Last year, Kenya museum officials reportedly met with Sen. Barack Obama about repatriation of hundreds of Kenyan artifacts in the United States. At the time, Kenya museum official Kibunja Mzalendo said the Tsavo lions were high on the government's list but said the Field had made "a legitimate deal, certainly" with the hunter in 1924.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/552998,CST-NWS-lion12.article
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Steven Andrew Miller (talk • contribs) 22:53, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Species
I had a couple of questions if anyone minded answereing...
1) What kind of lions were they?
2) If they were males, why were they maneless?
1.They were african lions
2.Thier manes got shaved Abomasnow (talk) 13:14, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Possible Causes of "maneating" behavior
Undid "causes" modifications by 201.1.66.112 of 04 March 2008, as this has been previously refined and corrected. See the history of edits on this article in December, 2007 and in particular Christobol2004's edits of February 8, 2008. The restored information is excerpted from a formal study, and well-cited. - Thaimoss (talk) 02:03, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
