Talk:Tryfan

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[edit] Moel Tryfan

I was re-directed to Tryfan from Moel Tryfan while cross checking links from North Wales Narrow Gauge Railway. I know enough to know these are different mountains, 9½ miles apart.

Can we have the re-direct taken off please? AHEMSLTD 14:22, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Scrambling

Tryfan is the only mountain on the British mainland to require scrambling to reach the summit, isn't it? I've always thought it was, and have just said so in the article, but a quick Google doesn't yield any reliable verification. The question is of course in two parts:

  1. Does Tryfan absolutely require scrambling? (I've always scrambled to the top, but then I've never been interested in finding a non-scrambling route.)
  2. Are there any other mountains on the mainland requiring scrambling? (I can't think of any, but it's hard to prove a negative.)

According to Scrambles in Snowdonia, "Pundits say you can't climb the mountain without at some point using your hands for support" – hardly a definitive answer. Further Reliable sources welcome!

I removed the line saying that the scrambling can be avoided by means of Heather Terrace, as IIRC this avoids the summit (by quite a long way) as well as the scrambling. --Blisco 09:27, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

You definitely can't go up the north ridge without using your hands at some point, and, as Blisco points out, Heather Terrace is more of a high level route round the mountain than a route to the top. The closest you can get to a hands-free ascent is by walking round the back, past Llyn Bochlwyd, to Bwlch Tryfan, and then heading up the south ridge. I'm very doubtful whether you could make a hands-free ascent this way, though. BTW, I always thought that "Lake Australia" or "Australia Lake" as a name for Bochlwyd was entirely part of the dubious folklore of Bangor University Mountain Walking Club, as the lake doesn't carry that name on any edition of the relevant OS map. A quick Google suggests I'm wrong, however, so I'll put a reference in the text. Bedesboy 08:52, 6 February 2007 (UTC)