Talk:Trump (card game)

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Many trick-taking games contain a trump suit. Cards in the trump suit outrank all others. If trump is played to a trick led in another suit, the highest card of the trump suit (rather than the highest card in the led suit) wins.

Trump may be static or dynamic. Static trump is featured in Spades, where the spade suit is always trump, as well as many tarock games where a separate trump suit (in addition to the other four) is featured. When trump is dynamic, as in Contract Bridge, it is usually declared by the winner of the auction, the right to choose trump being an incentive for players to bid; or in some games, such as Oh Hell and the original form of Whist, it is determined randomly by exposing a card (in this case it's as if the trump was static, but it adds some psychological variety to the game and makes it more difficult to cheat while dealing the cards if the trump suit is only chosen in the end of the deal).

In some games, certain special cards are high trumps regardless of the actual trump suit. For example, in skat, jacks are the highest four trumps.

Some games have more than one trump suit, such as Stortok, in which there are two trumps, with one superseding the other.


—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.167.217.162 (talk) 16:55, 15 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Redirect

User:162.83.158.202 has reverted the redirect back to an article, with the edit saying that Knock-out Whist is not the same as this game. However, searching "trump card game" yields no good results and [1] says Trumps the card game is Knock-out Whist. Can you provide a source?

Trump is different from Trumps (note the s). I'm working on finding external sources for Trump but in the meantime, I'd like to continue building the wikipedia page for it with the rules I know. You're welcome to create a 'Trumps' page and have that redirect to Knock-out Whist.
I can confirm that there is a middle-eastern game called pronounced 'tarneeb' in english, which directed me here. I hope the above-mentioned completes the article! --Xtcrider 03:22, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Revise or Delete

This article is very possibly the ugliest, most confused pile of dung I have every encountered (though not the biggest—that would go to the article "2000s"). I frankly doubt that there are any authentic references to this game. My suspicion is that, when they were a child, someone was taught bridge or another game that involves trump cards, and that they put together this article from their foggy and inaccurate memories. I'm going to delete this or scour it nearly clean if no one fixes it in the next week or so. Unschool 02:35, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

The German, Danish, Norwegian, Esperanto and Swedish articles on trump cards all link here, and since no such article on trumps actually existed, I put one here. While there may be game sometimes called trump (but usually other names) we shouldn't confuse people over a mega obscurity. 2005 02:03, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
we shouldn't confuse people over a mega obscurity
  • Huh? Unschool 04:31, 22 January 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Needs a more general description/explaination

For those of us who don't play card games, but are interested in the phenomenon, would be great. I finally wanted to look this up, because of a Twain quote:

Tell the truth or trump - but get the trick.
-- Mark Twain, _Pudd'n'head Wilson_ (1894)

And I've seen references to it in the Amber series... So I'd like more details on what it's suppossed to mean, so that I can get where the authors are taking off from.
~ender 2007-04-15 09:50:PM MST —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.167.217.162 (talk) 16:48, 15 April 2007 (UTC).

It's impressive how good a job this article currently does at NOT explaining what a trump is. 130.89.228.82 (talk) 13:02, 12 March 2008 (UTC)