User talk:Tropylium

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[edit] Music in Berlin

Hi Tropylium! I saw you're an active participant of the Berlin school article. I was wondering if you would like to help with the Music in Berlin article that I started a couple of weeks ago. It would be terrific if someone started work on the recent developments in the musical history of Berlin. Any contributions are most welcome! Matthias Röder 14:56, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Glottalic and ejectives

Hi, I am also an amateur in linguistics but this is of no importance. When writing on Barrack's objections against Kortland, my aim was to point that those objections exist. Your question is natural however. I think the best way to learn what they are is to ask Barrack. In the meantime, you may be interested in the paper [Preaspiration in the Nordic Languages].

Kortland's view (as presented in the paper of which you write in the discussion to the article) is well known and easily accessible. Counterviews are harder to find. Nevertheless they exist and are well argumented.

Grzegorj 09:57, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Regarding your edits to C:

Your recent edit to C (diff) was reverted by an automated bot. You have been identified as a new user or a logged out editor using a hosting or shared IP address to add email addresses, phone numbers, YouTube, Geocities, Myspace, Facebook, blog, forum, or other such free-hosting website links to a non-talk page. Please note that such links are generally to be avoided. You can restore any other content by editing the page and re-adding that content. The links can be reviewed and restored by established users. Thank you for contributing! // VoABot II 12:27, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Conlang userbox

Greetings, Tropylium. If you ever find or create a conlanging userbox, would you mind letting me know? It would be greatly appreciated.

Yours,
Nick

[edit] Space music

Hi there. I noticed your comment concerning mis-quoted sources in the above article. It's a major ongoing problem at that article, due to collusion between 2 editors who have been trying to push an unsourced POV on the subject for months, and who have dumped an avalanche of sources into the article in an effort to frustrate any outside attempt to resolve the issue via true consensus. Sometimes the mis-quotes are subtle, with comments merely taken out of context in order to put a different spin on them - other times they are blatant mis-quotes which say the direct opposite of what these editors claim they say. Attempts at reviewing each source individually are frustrated by the editors in question adding further sources, or moving sources around, to confuse the discussion. Any outside opinions/observations that could assist resolving this are very welcome. --Gene_poole 21:25, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi Tropylium - welcome to space music. I'm sorry to see that your first experience of the article is that the conflict has immediately appeared on your talk page.
If you want to dive in and get involved, you're welcome of course. If you do, for context, I recommend that you read the talk page, and also the archives of the talk page.
I thought I should post a note for you with further information, since Gene_poole posted on your page, attempting to poison the well before you've had a chance to make your own decisions. He also discussed editors rather than content, including ad hominem personal attacks, which are unfounded.
Usually, I would not even mention anything about another editor, but since he's already posted an attack about me on your page, I felt I needed to reply so you have the background information. When you read his comments and his edit summaries, please consider whether or not you see his use of words like "vandalism" to be fair and accurate, or if it seems he uses those words in an attempt to influence others in his content disputes.
He runs a radio show that plays ambient music, Ultima Thule Ambient Music and has a likely conflict of interest in editing the article. In a published interview about his radio show that he considers "ambient" rather than "space music" he said he detests the term "new age music", and then he followed that with this statement: "I also detest the term 'spacemusic', incidentally". (I can find the link for you if you want it).
I'm not going to go into all the details, but if you review the talk page, you'll see that there have been five editors who have disagreed with his interpretations of the topic, while so far, not one other editor has agreed with him. So the article is the result of consensus by multiple editors.
There is no mis-quoting of sources. It's possible there may be a small error or two, as in any article, but the references have been carefully researched. You are of course, welcome to review them and make your own decision.
There's no need to rush to figure all this out. Over time, if you stick around and watch the behavior of the various editors, all will become clear.
So, welcome, and best wishes. --Parsifal Hello 22:00, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Hello again. I'm sorry that the above editor has chosen to post personal attacks about me on your talk page. Unfortunately the above is typical of his pattern of behaviour. Other editors are slowly becoming aware of the problem, so it'll more than likely be dealt with via community sanction in due course. It's best to simply ignore the attacks and continue editing in good faith. I'll certainly support any review of the quoted sources in space music if you wish to instigate one. --Gene_poole 06:25, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Tropylium, I'm the other editor immediately attacked. I'll verify the truth of what Parsifal has written, and if you do research, you'll see that it's all sadly true. While I personally welcome you, for your own happiness, I have to recommend that you leave the Space music article and delete everything we've written here on your page. From your short edit history, I assume you are just too new to become plunged into unrelenting mendacity and conflict. Milo 13:07, 18 October 2007 (UTC) Re-edited 09:10, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
I indeed have no intention nor time to "plunge into unrelenting mendacity and conflict". But I'm going to assume good faith at least for now, tho. We'll see how well that goes. --Tropylium 10:21, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Dale (talk) 02:02, 26 December 2007 (UTC) Hi Tropylium. You note on the Berlin School entery and comment. I would reccomend you do a search on any search engine to see info required to meet notiable bands. Please restore your edit to include the link that was.

dale

[edit] Table Talk

Thanks for fixing up the consonant table on Phula language. I really hate formatting those darn things. I'd rather just draw them out by hand, but that's not possible here ;)

I've done quite a bit janitorial work on that subject. Nice to hear it's not going unappreciated.

BTW, have you found any decent way to line up the voiceless under circle with the letter above it in Unicode? I've NEVER been able to do it with any degree of success, so I don't do the charts on languages with voiceless sonorants (notice on Phula I used an asterisk behind the segment to mark laryngealization).

Sounds like a font issue. I've never had any problems with that specific diacritic.

I've made the sound charts on Buyang language if you get bored and want to clean up another poorly made chart. (Taivo (talk) 22:28, 14 March 2008 (UTC))

As well as Mpade language and a handful of others, I notice… --Tropylium (talk) 22:19, 9 May 2008 (UTC)