Talk:Tropical Storm Ophelia

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[edit] Shouldn't this be...

Typhoon Ophelia since three of the four were typhoons, not hurricanes? (The link to the 2005 hurricane should remain but be mentioned separately) CrazyC83 19:09, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

I agree. --Golbez 21:21, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Maybe. I think it's important to disambiguate between tropical cyclones in different basins with the same name. This could be done all in one disambiguation article (Hurricane Ophelia (disambiguation) or Typhoon Ophelia (disambiguation) or even the more generic Tropical Cyclone Ophelia (disambiguation)), with appropriate redirects. Or it could be done in multiple articles (Hurricane Ophelia (disambiguation), Typhoon Ophelia (disambiguation), Cyclone Ophelia (disambiguation)) with links to each other. I lean toward the former since the latter could get crazy (with ~6 basins and 3 different prefixes there could end up being a lot of articles), but it doesn't really matter much I suppose. For now I've redirected Typhoon Ophelia. Jdorje 16:48, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

I think this is probably a rare circumstance; there can't be too many names shared among both hurricanes and typhoons. I have no problem with splitting it up; people will easily claim a pro-western bias if we have the dab page at "hurricane". --Golbez 17:30, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

I think it's more common than you think. Probably even quite common. Looking at [1] and [2] I see that (for instance) Charlie (not Charley), Ivan (oddly very similar to the atlantic Ivan), and Jeanne are all used (there's no Francis). Also it looks like Ophelia is used for 2 other cyclones in the southwest pacific [3]. And yes there's a Katrina [4] and a dozen Ritas (spread across both basins and including 2 monsters) [5]. So if we have separate articles for each then we need separate Cyclone Ophelia (disambiguation), Typhoon Ophelia (disambiguation, and (in 6 or 24 years) Hurricane Ophelia (disambiguation). I didn't have a strong opinion before but now I do: this is too ugly. These should all be contained in one article (named Tropical Cyclone Ophelia if you want to be neutral). Jdorje 21:02, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

(disambiguation) is not needed for any of those. At all. There is only one hurricane Ophelia, and none of the typhoons or cyclones [presently] have articles. This really is a solution in search of a problem, as we don't have any historical cyclone or typhoon data yet, not on the seasons at least, and therefore links to the nonexistent seasons would not be terribly useful. Until recently, this was the case for Pacific, and before that, Atlantic hurricanes. All things in time. --Golbez 22:06, 19 September 2005 (UTC)