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[edit] Saluting BASE, not "Dais"

I do not know who changed this in the Definitions and throughout the article to Saluting Dais, but it is in fact Saluting Base. The BBC commentary bears this out year by year. In addition, I attended Trooping the Colour this year (2006)- and have made many contributions to this article - and my programme from the event also has Saluting BASE throughout. Please take note and do not change it back. Thanks. -- FClef 21:56, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

This sort of edit happens all the time on Wikipedia, which is why it is always a good idea to use references. It would be a good idea to cite this fact using your program as the reference, if you don't know how to make an inline cite, leave a message on my talk page. Giano | talk 08:42, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok no problem, it the army we always call it a saluting dais - unfortunately I have no reference for this and doubt that there's a reference in QRs either. I have found my programme for the event, and it is indeed called a base. I just went through adding bits of military terminology. Oh friendly tip, don't rely on the BBC, that Welsh guy makes it up as he goes along, swear to god. The terms are no big deal to most people anyway I presume. 14:29, 6 July 2006.

Many thanks for quick reply and for your forbearance. Have you got a user name? -- FClef 13:32, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Nope, I was just looking though Wiki to get some ammo for an argument I was having on Trooping the Colour! 14:34 6 July 2006

Do you know how to sign your comments? Use four tildes (the tilde mark is ~ as in Spanish - and you need 4 to bring up your username, date and time.) The military terminology is good - I come from a history standpoint myself. I would like to bring this article up to featured standard but there's lots of work to do. Look at Giano | talk for an idea of the scale of stuff that needs doing. I may not bother... -- FClef 13:39, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Ok, cheers. On a side note, this year's Trooping the Colour wasn't that great I thought - but still impressive by any standards! 62.56.98.120 13:53, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

In reply to the message you sent me, hey fine I'm not fussed. If you want it left alone, well fair enough. I'm no computer tech and wiki isn't my strong point. The last edit on the march in quick time was to remove something that I had inserted before. It wasn't entirely correct in the wording, as it suggested the the colour would not be saluted by general officers if it was not lowered - which of course it is. Hence the deletion rather than adding wordy phrases. Just trying to fix my own mistake. Yep I was at the Trooping this year, not as part of the parade as I'm not part of the guards div, but watching from the stands in my No2s. Yep I saw the C/Sgt get a beating - good man held onto the colour though. 62.56.98.120 21:06, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I've changed it to dais again. This is how I have always heard it described (I have attended Trooping the Colour 7 times) and also how it is described in General Sir Michael Gow's (formerly Scots Guards) booklet "The Sovereign's Birthday Parade". I don't have a programme from 2006, but none of the programmes from 1999 to 2004 use either base or dais. I would take the General's view as being correct, as opposed to the 2006 programme. Bbombbardier 13:36, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Dear Bbombardier, I was not able to access your Talk page. I have also changed it back to Base - because it is described thus every year on the BBC commentary as well as in the official programme.

If you Google the words Saluting Base, you will notice that Saluting Base is the term used on the Army's official description of Trooping the Colour. Various other sources also use this term to refer to Trooping the Colour.

I too have Sir Michael Gow's book. I have not been 7 times to T the C (lucky you!) but I have attended twice, the last time being last year. I did work for the Royal Household at Buckingham Palace a few years back. --FClef (talk) 22:47, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Information re Featured Article status

NOTE: I have copied this over from Giano's talk page to facilitate work on editing.

I have worked on cleaning up the middle of the article. I inserted the bullet points to clarify the article, which, though informed, was muddy.

Regarding the uniforms, these are dealt with on the appropriate regimental pages of the Foot Guards companies, but I could put in a bit more. I have not yet inserted any pix and am something of a technophobe.

In all, thanks, but probably I have not the time to dedicate for all the work required to get it to FA standard. Would you like to shine some of your sunny beams to the article? (I imagine you don't have time either...) -- FClef 12:52, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I have not read the article, but bullet points often help with a list; however, they seldom make prose better. I will give the article a copyedit if I have time, but please don't give up: you may like to get a peer review and then nominate it as a good article. -- ALoan (Talk) 13:48, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why I haven't put the full references in for the BBC Broadcasts

I am in the United States. A friend of mine records the ceremony and sends the DVD to me. Thus, I don't know the dates of the transmissions. For the 2006 ceremony, I suspect it was on BBC 1, since it has fuller detail. The 2005 ceremony DVD was on BBC 2; I saw the "bouncing" logo. I suspect that was 12 June 2005. GABaker 14:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I will try to find out how to do full refs for these at a later point - the TV commentary is v. useful and it therefore belongs in Refs. ( If this turns out to be impossible I will work around it somehow and mention the live transmissions, possibly naming the commentators, etc. - but hopefully it won't come to that. ) Incidentally did you know that the music is recorded every year? -- FClef (Talk) 22:35, 14 July 2006 (UTC)