Talk:Troilus and Cressida

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[edit] Troilus and Cressida in the First Folio

This article claims that the play is present in the First Folio. I was recently looking in my Facimilie, and I Troilus and Cressida is not present in my table of contents. Here is a link to a a First Folio table of contents image.

Perhaps Troilus and Cressida was in one of the following Folio editions? Is anyone familiar with the issue?

[edit] Achilles Gay?

I choose to comment here rather than at the Elibethan Project because I couldn't easily locate the place to comment there.

I've just seen a staging of Troilus and Cressida that portrays the relationships between Achilles and Patroculus as a sexual one. Not knowing the play, I thought that this might be another Director trying to stretch a point, but the dialogue fitted the idea so well that I was surprised instead by how explicit and perhaps homophobic Shakespeare's language was. Thersites actually calls Patroclus a male whore (a comment not remarkable for its vitriol as Thersites doesn't seem to like anyone, but it does seem to reinforce the point).

Yet when I read the reviews--like the one here explicitly commenting on the sexuality in the play--there is no mention of it. 207.81.127.107 19:02, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

That's because this article is too short and not very good! Achilles and Patroclus are certainly accused of being lovers in the play. Whether they are is open to debate, but I believe most major stage productions have presented them so. Barney Jenkins 00:38, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thersites

What?????

• Thersites, an ugly and abusive low-class person

In the play it is never commented that he is "ugly" perhaps as an insult but in actuality, he is a FOOL, a JESTER. Please let me know if you find otherwise.