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[edit] LBL Systems speedy deletion

I just posted a new subject on Long Base Line as there was no existing page for this yet. I thought this information was relevant, new and on Wikipedia non-existant.

The information provided was based from the magazine that I am working for, and which is a reference in hydrography. Is this spamming? Not that I am aware of - I though to add information that is useful and that may be completed by others. Hope to clarify this.

Best wishes - Joost

--Joostboers (talk) 14:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I understand but the only reference you gave was for a single business review and the article looked very much like an advertisment. What is needed is reliable 3rd party sources. Some one else agreed with me becase the page has been deleted (not by me). Next time 1. Place a {{hangon}} on the page and explain this in the talk page of the article. 2. Find more references to show WP:NPOV. Then you will not have a problem. --Triwbe (talk) 14:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Paul Teed

Uggh. This was already addressed by a Wikipedia Admin. I give up. I'm sick of pleading my case every time. It's no use, I just can't compete with the people who scroll the recent changes pages with an iron fist. There needs to be better communication between Admins.

ChuckGreen (talk) 09:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

It is simple, read Wikipedia:Notability (people) and Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons and think about why multiple editors have not found enough references to keep the article. --Triwbe (talk) 09:12, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] AfD nomination of Sine Qua Non (Battlestar Galactica)

I have nominated Sine Qua Non (Battlestar Galactica), an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sine Qua Non (Battlestar Galactica). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? dorftrottel (talk) 00:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:FLAG-BIO

Hello, Triwbe ... I noticed your addition of {{Articleissues}} to a recently created article by Colors8 (talk · contribs), who seems to be creating articles about NN actors ... I just thought that you might be interested in the Flag templates that I have created for "questionable" articles, where I provide a stencil for that template in the 3rd Step ... using them may take a little more time, but I have found them to be worth the extra effort ... do you have any comments on them?

Happy Editing! — 151.200.237.53 (talk · contribs) 08:58, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

was just looking and admiring them :-) very useful IMHO. Explains to the editor properly why the article is of concern and points him/her to the WP pages explaining in details. I think I may also use it. Well done. --Triwbe (talk) 09:28, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi ... I saw you tried to use it on Sri Sureshanand Ji (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) ... unfortunately, you need to copy&paste the stencil from the 1st Step of the appropriate WP:FLAG-xyz protocol and replace "Author-name" ... each one has the appropriate (Guideline) already ({{Flag-article}} with no arguments just doesn't cut it <Sigh!>) ... what I usually do is open WP:FLAG-BIO (or whatever) in another browser tab so that I can switch back and forth between them ... and don't forget to flag the author as well ... guess I need to update the instructions. :-) —151.200.237.53 (talk) 12:13, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
OK got it. --Triwbe (talk) 12:17, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Thnx fer the accidental snafu ... I've update the documentation to emphasize that they must be substituted, and added a Usage section to the Template:Flag-templates documentation that talks about using multiple browser tabs ... I'm also going to give some thought to adding a warning message if they lack the required second argument (Article/Editor-name), like {{Db}} does, but that'll have to be a project for Some Other Session. — 151.200.237.53 (talk) 13:01, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] BREEAM management

Hi. :) In reviewing CSDs, I came upon the above article which you tagged for WP:CSD#A2, but I can't find the foreign language equivalent in another Wikimedia project. I've tried Google searching for the term and also for some of the language, but haven't come up with a match. If you happen to know where it is, please let me know, and I'll be happy to clean it up. I've removed the tag for now as I haven't been able to verify that it meets the criterion. You are of course more than welcome to put the tag back up with the source encoded. ({{db-a2|source=SourceProject:SourcePageName}}) The removal of the tag is not meant to dispute that it meets the criterion, merely to indicate that I can't verify it. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

it is on the dutch site (natrually) http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/BREEAM_management but up for deletion, so what does that tell us about the EN site ? :-) --Triwbe (talk) 13:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. :) I'll go ahead and take care of it now. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Flag-article

Hello again, Triwbe ... Well, {{Flag-article}} and {{Flag-editor}} both generate an error message if the user forgets to "subst:" the template ... thnx fer making me aware of the problem. :-)

On a related note, now they also populate Category:Flagged articles and Category:Flagged editors ... they may get deleted Real Soon Now, but it may solve one of the problems pointed out by Some Other Editor, i.e., "... then I have to remember to check the article a few days later."

I think that these categories can serve as a community Watchlist that can help share the burden of reviewing "questionable" articles that could still be saved ... what are your thoughts?

Happy Editing! — 151.200.237.53 (talk) 16:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Flag-editor

Hi again ... I see that you used Template:Flag-editor on User talk:Colors8, but it was while I was futzing with it, so that user doesn't show in Category:Flagged editors ... My bad! ... it should work correctly the next time that you use it. :-) Happy Editing! — 151.200.237.53 (talk) 00:12, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Flag-editor

It work very well, see the respone given on Talk:Association of Black Psychologists. WP:AGF is much easier when you have cooperative feedback. --Triwbe (talk) 06:05, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

I "touched" the article Association of Black Psychologists (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) and its Talk page ... don't feel like putting much lipstick on that pig. :-) —151.200.237.53 (talk) 17:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
NO, I understand, but it got a response from the editor and it gently let him know people are watching. CSD or prod and we could loose a potentially worthy article (hypothetically speaking). --Triwbe (talk) 18:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
That's it, exactly, Grasshopper ... "Hold their hand, don't slap it!" :-)
BTW, how do you like the change to "helping hand optional" with the assist parameter in the Flag tempplates? — 151.200.237.53 (talk) 22:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Oldprodfull

Hello again ... have you had a look at {{Oldprodfull}}? Would you use it as an administrative tag in spite of the extra overhead? Happy Editing! — 151.200.237.53 (talk · contribs) 22:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Phi(re)

if it gets deleted, please send me a copy to samvid30@hotmail.com thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samvidgupta (talk • contribs) 08:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Clonalis House

I edited the original extracts from the website of Clonalis to include a new section of which i am the author. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sallgog (talk • contribs) 14:26, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes I saw that. --Triwbe (talk) 14:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Midori

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Midori (browser), which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! 82.203.170.158 (talk) 16:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem, that's what prods r 4. I still think it should not be there, Alpha testing cannot make it noteworthy and WP:CRYSTAL and all that. We shall see. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Triwbe (talk • contribs) 17:28, 4 June 2008
That's a PROD that I would have seconded ... glad to see the use of {{Oldprodfull}} by Some Other Editor to document that it was contested ... Happy Editing! — 151.200.237.53 (talk · contribs) 19:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks, Triwbe

Hi Triwbe, Thanks for the constructive input. I will get there in time, I hope. Check my updates out if you get a chance, please. I will do more with the [Lau page]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lau_%28band%29 over the next few days. (Arm of Keith (talk) 22:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC))

[edit] Nazir Nabaa

Hello again ... FYI, the 3rd Step of WP:FLAG-BIO has an {{Articleissues}} boilerplate that you might find handy, and less cluttery ... per your recent edits, I'm adding "npov" to the list. :-) — 151.200.237.53 (talk) 01:23, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Stephanie Biddle page what does the page need to be wikified?

I have been working hard to collect the appropriate references and links to add to this page and I want to know how it looks now to be kept from deletion. I am new so I have to ask to learn how to do this correctly. Clinix1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clinix1 (talk • contribs) 22:29, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry to drop in uninvited, but FYI, I'm going to 2nd the PROD on Stephanie Biddle (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs). — 151.200.237.53 (talk) 23:10, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WP:FLAG-MOVIE

OK, it made sense to activate this one without feedback ... I'm gonna use it for The Offspring (film) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs), and hope that you will find it useful as well ... I've modified {{Flag-article}} and {{Flag-editor}} to recognize Movies as a (Guideline). — 151.200.237.53 (talk) 04:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

Keep in mind that the Asian Club group has just been created, similar to Taipei American School's "Blue & Gold" club. Prowikipedians (talk) 08:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


I am keeping this under review, none of them seems to have the required notability, but Wikipedia:Notability (schools) seems to be completely ignored and all and every school seems to be allowed, and their groups and clubs (re: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blue & Gold). A public newspaper or magazine would need substantial notability to be kept, but a school rag with minimal distribution, no one objects to. Why ? --Triwbe (talk) 09:00, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
This is because schools apply to the section under notability. BTW...I fixed your link. Prowikipedians (talk) 09:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Are we reading the same section ???

Indicators of probable notability

The following criteria are some indicators of probable notability and indicate that suitable sources almost certainly exist for building the article. If any of the following can be reliably sourced, then the article should not be deleted but allowed to exist as a stub.

 1. The school has a notable award or status.
2. The school receiving the highest available official assessment.

I am not picking out this one, there are hundreds of non-notable scools by this criteria. The page is just a proposal, but I think it goes againts so many other WP:ISNOT sections as well. --Triwbe (talk) 09:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
What do you mean by "the school receiving the highest available official assessment.?" Rephrase please. Prowikipedians (talk) 09:13, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
It is a quote, read Wikipedia:Notability (schools). --Triwbe (talk) 09:14, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Tell you what. Give me some time to write on this article since I also have other articles to write on. Prowikipedians (talk) 09:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
That is no problem, from the talk pages the schools proposal is nowhere near acceptance. consensus is a long way off, as is shown by Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blue & Gold and others. --Triwbe (talk) 10:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Sorry to drop in uninvited, but I created WP:FLAG-SCL a few months ago to facilitate articles judged by WP:SCL ... there has never been much interest in it, though, since schools are not A7 speedy deletable candidates, and they usually require a WP:AFD to delete, which is just Too Much effort for some editors ... Happy Editing! — 151.200.237.53 (talk · contribs) 15:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, you are welcome. I like the idea of "flagging" 'cause 1) no [[CSD for schools, 2) WP:PROD will be removed by any savvy editor then 3) WP:AFD would probably be no consensus or merge, which is just as bad 'cause no one can be bothered to actually make the effort to do it (talking about schools here). Flagging at least pokes the editor and may get a reaction, which is more than the other options.--Triwbe (talk) 15:19, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
  • " … that's why the templates use a icon instead of a or icon ("Get their attention, but don't frighten them!") … they don't know what's going on, and we're trying to bring them up to speed and guide them, so we need to hold their hands, not slap them …"
There was a long period of growth and change in creating WP:FLAG-PROTOCOL, and the addition/changes in the color of the flag icon was accompanied by a campaign to regularize the editor notification message templates for the common Speedy deletion templates (and the courtesy PROD messages), so that they all used the same icon image files (yellow for PRODs, red for CSDs) ... also, the first incarnations were WARN-xyz, not FLAG-xyz, and they emphasized CSD over PROD ... I like to think that I've grown since those earlier days. :-)
BTW, I've modified {{Selected filmography}} to populate Category:Flagged articles as well ... Happy Editing! — 151.200.237.53 (talk · contribs) 16:20, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Shepherd Boats

Shepherd Boats was definitely not a CSD#A1 - I nuked it anyhow, on the grounds that it was realistically an A7, maybe G11. Just for future reference, so to avoid the same mistake on others which might not be so nukable. WilyD 18:22, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Well now it's gone I cannot see. But I think it has about 2 or 3 words. It must have been expanded after I CSD#A1. --Triwbe (talk) 18:33, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Institute of Language Logic and Computation

Oops I got the word order round the wrong way so didn't find the original page. I guess it would be best just to delete my entry? --Andyf (talk) 22:05, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The Deux (band)

I already erased the page. thanks bye. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thegump58 (talk • contribs) 04:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Mayur Public School

Hello This is with reference to the unreferenced advertisement and neutrality of the article Mayur Public School which was in dispute. Editing has been done in order to resolve the issue. kindly visit the page and comment if there is further need of clarifications otherwise please do remove the warnings from the article.

--Amit Bhatnotra (talk) 14:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello, thanks for your good work. Plenty of references; well done, but be careful of Peacock terms which are not permitted. I will review and remove tags now. --Triwbe (talk) 14:23, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Why am I always deleted

I am a Film & TV actor (Screen Actors Guild) with some 33 films and TV shows under my belt... I am also a stage entertainer since 1990 in the area of the paranormal and have done TV specials/shows in the USA and Japan related to the paranormal. Plus I've been written about in several major publishing company books (not self printed)... And YET every time I try to get something added, it's deleted... --Rgmatthewsjr (talk) 10:53, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for communicating. I guess no 1. It's autobiographical, see Wikipedia:Autobiography. 2, you have to prove that you/he is notable. Every time the article is deleted a reason is given. You have to get the first version of the article up to "Stub" class, see Wikipedia:Stub then you will be safe. The bottom line normally comes down to WP:attribution, especially with Biographies of living persons. Get one or two good references then you should be OK. --Triwbe (talk) 11:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] User talk:Weissmann

Hi Twibe. My bad, it was just that when DeadlyAssassin tried to add a CSD template it broke his page (see: [1]) •xytram•talkpics 14:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Why did you undo my changes???

Every fact on page NCFC Fight Management is accurate and verified through outside sources. If there is something specific you don't trust please let me know and I will verify it. (71.106.209.114 (talk) 20:59, 13 June 2008 (UTC))

If you are referring to the edits made by User:Amatannn then you removed the template messages placed in the article with out explaining the edits or improving the article - as was explained in the user talk page. If I thought the facts were not verified I would have said so.--Triwbe (talk) 21:09, 13 June 2008 (UTC)



[edit] Norman Giller

Hello Triwbe. Thank you for editing the Norman Giller entry. Your input is most welcome, and the whole of Wikipedia just awesome. I can vouch that all the facts are correct, as I submitted them. The words are not copied and pasted, but freshly 'cooked' for the Wikipedia website. When recently addressing a ladies luncheon on the topic of writing books, one of the audience said rather sarcastically: "You cannot be a very established author because I can find no reference to you in Wikipedia! " Hopefully, with your assistance, I can now put that right and get the recognition that Wikipedia brings. Incidentally, I can trace Samuel Pepys in my ancestry line. I wonder what he would make of Wikipedia! Sammypepys (talk) 01:40, 14 June 2008 (UTC) Norman

Hi Sammy, thank you for your input. You know what I did ? I thought "who is this guy?" - so I googled. Then I thought "blimy, he even has interviews with the BBC, he really did do all this stuff". Then I searched Wikipedia 3 or 4 times because I could not believe there was no article for him or hardly any mention of him already. So good work for you for creating it and writing all that material. No problem of notability or WP:V verifiability here. Then, lastly, the text looked a little too professionally written, so I checked for Internet pages from which it may have been copied (in violation of Wikipedia's copyright policy), but I did not find any. So just in case I added the {{Copypaste}} to show my concern, but if you attend book writing luncheons, then that explains the writing quality:-). --Triwbe (talk) 04:38, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

I am guessing, Triwbe, that you are States-based. I truly appreciate the effort you have put in on my behalf. I have now reached the "old git" stage of my life, and many of my generation do not attempt to keep up to date with the hurtling changes of the internet world. I must be honest and admit that I stumble around in Wikipedia like a blind man in a maze. If anything there is too much information about how to edit, and it all just confuses my poor old brain (I have smooth-as-a-baby's-bum hands that have not done a day's work in their life ... but you should see the blisters on my brain). I am waffling. Sorry. Would you like me to upload a photo of myself as further proof that I am THE Norman Giller, of Whom Who's Who says Who? Thanks for taking time out to correspond. You must have better things to do with your time. I have just made a small donation to the Wikipedia fund. I take so much out of Wikipedia that it's only right that I should put something back.Sammypepys (talk) 11:57, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Re: James Kearns

Hello again, Triwbe ... Any thoughts this article that I just PRODed?

Happy Editing! — 151.200.237.53 (talk · contribs) 15:43, 14 June 2008 (UTC)