Talk:Trinity Broadcasting Network

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If we are going to quote critics we have to give some idea of what they are criticising it for, not just quote their insults. DJ Clayworth 21:25, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Its time to turn this article into a proper broadcasting related article. It is claimed that TBN is on "thousands" of cable systems. Come on, that is going to take some proving. It would be good to list all of the high power stations and then list areas where the low power relays are located as well as the cable systems. Outside of the USA TBN is on a number of satellites, cable systems and TV stations. They need listing. How about radio? The present article is not very good at all. MPLX/MH 01:45, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
It is time we should turn all Wikipedia articles into proper articles. Hyacinth 02:08, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Too true (and I had to laugh), but what I meant was that we need to treat this as a broadcasting article and not as a religious article and as a broadcasting article it can be treated a sensible manner (yes, I can already hear the retort to that suggestion.) MPLX/MH 06:05, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Vandalism?

Why must people keep adding pointless hyperlinks to the bottom of this page which bash Christianity in various ways? I don't even see why TBN is a good target for this, it looks like it's revert war time, and that's not right! Homestarmy 13:36, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fallacious claims of "hush money" being paid

The link to the story on Crouch in no way says that TBN admitted they paid "hush" money. The only money the story shows paid was $425, 000 in an out of court settlement in regards to Ford's claims of being unjustly fired. Ford claimed he had a manuscript that contained a description of the supposed sexual encounter and the Arbitrator ruled that he had no right to make this claim after the settlement was paid in regards to the other issue of him being fired. Ford then demanded $10 million as a bribe! The claims that TBN made a press release in 2004 admitting paying hush money is completely fallacious. The linked story says no such thing.

You might have a point there, let me see if I can try and edit it so there isn't so much an accusation of hush money and more of a report on that source, give me a minute or so....Homestarmy 21:44, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

How does what I wrote look? Homestarmy 21:52, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, that totally sounds fair from what the stories actually state. It definitely didn't sound very fair before- especially since the story noted the money was only paid on the claims of being unjustly fired not hush money. The TBN press release, from what I found of it via a google search definitely didn't imply hush money, so. Much better, and it totally sounds fair from the facts we actually know. 13:30, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Positive and The Negative

This page must include the positive and negative areas of TBN. The $425,000 paid in 1998 was a reality. Right or wrong, good or bad; it happened. Critical links that express negative feelings are part of wikipedia just as positive links are.. it's what makes wikipedia informative.

Well we have the link still there reporting it im pretty sure. Do you have another link to suggest? Homestarmy 18:19, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Audience larger than traditional secular nets?

That sounds like crap'. Larger potential audience, perhaps. From what I understand Nielsen doesn't follow them since they are paid programs rather than supported by advertising, but to me that sounds like an unsourced lie by some "Christian" who somehow thinks that the "Good Book" says somewhere that the end justifes the means — or that it ought to!

Wait, what line is this in? Homestarmy 18:19, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
"audience larger than traditional secular nets", yes, at one point, they had an incredible number of viewers during a certain TBN show (Praise the Lord?). There was also a controversy because certain stations in the southeast (?) were allegedly being controlled by TBN, yet not officially owned by TBN. At that time there were caps on networks, possibly due to the non-profit status. I don't know if that controversy hit the national papers, but it was in the regional ones.172.129.138.132 23:37, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Audience larger than traditional secular nets

They do have a very large audience and in many countries. Many people around the world know who they are and watch their network. A lot of people like them. I am one of them. Leave them alone and stick to the facts. It's supposed to be an encyclopedia, not your opinion. Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.215.57.165 (talk) 02:29, 20 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Commercials

One thing that I noticed about this article is that it doesn't say whether TBN runs commercials to make revenue, or where its revenue comes from if not. If someone in the know could add that to the article, that would be great. JYolkowski // talk 00:55, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

I think its all donation based, with their praise-a-thons and whatnot. Homestarmy 00:57, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Since that's what I kind of guessed anyway, and I haven't been able to find anything to the contrary, I'll mention something in the article about it not running ads. Cheers, JYolkowski // talk 22:46, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I could see money coming in 3 ways: "spots" run during breaks (on TBN and affiliate stations), people paying money to have shows run (on TBN net, TBN stations, and affiliate stations) and donations.172.129.138.132 23:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Acquisition of Holy Land Experience

USA Today ran an article on July 29, 2007 stating that TBN had acquired the "Holy Land Experience" theme park in Orlando, FL. http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2007-07-29-holy-land-experience_N.htm

Asleep at the wheel, eh? I heard the Crouch family boasting about that as early as late May/early June. WAVY 10 15:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Phrase concerning the PTL (not that one) program

I wanted your opinion concerning the following:

While they are probably the most popular personalities on the network as hosts of the programs Praise The Lord and Behind The Scenes, Paul and Jan Crouch have become increasingly absent from TBN broadcasts, due to health problems and old age.

Could it be argued that another reason (at least in Paul's case) being that sexual harrasment lawsuit filed by a male ex-employee a few years back; because I think that was about the time they "disappeared" for the most part. WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 16:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Their absence could just as well be explained by the network having a growing stable of guest hosts along with the younger Crouches who are more effective at attracting audience dollars. Absent any published reason for their absence that can be cited, the last 7 words of that sentence should be dropped. Mike Doughney (talk) 16:26, 9 December 2007 (UTC)