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I've never seen the th spelling before, and google says:

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Mkweise 19:38 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)


Who is "Robare"? Unlinked, the name is mentioned once and never again. Sloppy!

evri 1 hu lukz at this page is gay!Would it be possible to include dates for the historical material, please? I'm trying to follow up on the development of concepts of divine Trinity generally, and terms like the Brahmapa period convey nothing to me. (Sorry to be Eurocentric.)—Copey--203.109.252.196 03:00, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

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This is a fairly common fallacy, that precedence provides causationMikereichold 05:30, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Contradiction

The intro asserts that Trimurti is similar to the "traditional view" of the Christian Trinity, yet the illustrative quote from Swami Sivananda describes a view that corresponds to modalism, which was rejected as heretical in the third century. Is there some other source that illustrates this differently, so as to justify the statement in the intro? TCC (talk) (contribs) 22:31, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article flawed

(Maitri Upanishad 5.2): "That part of Him which is characterized by tamas is called Rudra. That part of Him which belongs to rajas is Brahma. That part of Him which belongs to sattva is Vishnu."

Isn't this nuff to clarify the origins of trimurthi? Maitri upanishad is an upanishad derived from Krishna(or Black) Yajur Veda.

Max muller noted the difference in grammatical pecularities thus testified it belongs to an early period.

As for the article from catholic.com, it has certain errors as Brahma wasn't a duplicated god, but is same as Prajapathi, whose aspects by no means differ from that of Brahma of trimurti. Also, Brahma wasn't an impersonal deity, what he is referring to might be a reference to BRAHMAN.

Changes in the article should be made as soon as possible to reflect this.


Brahman is the Supreme Being, pervading all others. Vaishnav say Vishnu is Brahman. Saiva say Shiva is Brahman. Upanishads say that brahman is represented by these three. Ved vyaas revealed both upanishads as well as puranas, where puranas were written for laymen. Vaishnavs hold Vishnu Puraana as real authority while Saivas hold Shiva Puranaa as real authority. There are also brahma puraana if im not mistaken. Thus the hypothesis is misconceived.

I'm removing the opinion of non-hindus because its a mere allegation, with no sufficient proof.

[edit] Questioning the prevalence of the trimurti

I would like to introduce a couple of references that will question the extent to which the trimurti system actually represents a major force in Hindu thinking, as opposed to a Western "packaging" of some Hindu ideas. I mention this prior to doing so because it is possible that this material will not be familiar to other other editors. Currently the article lead has an unsorced linkage between the trimurti and Smarta tradition, which as far as I know is unfounded. Orthodox Smarta practice involves worship of five primary deities with the option for substitution of an ishta devata of the worshippers choice. Also, there are simply not very many references to the trimurti system in Indian literature, according to Winternitz. I would like to put out a call for all the regular editors on this article to assist me in locating references that will pin down the prevalence of this concept in Hindu sources, as opposed to Western sources. Buddhipriya 00:12, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

That sounds like an excellent idea, though I have no idea where to start. IPSOS (talk) 14:24, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
In my own search for references in older Hindu sources, the only one that comes up as as an unambiguous reference prior to contact with Western influences is now cited in the article (Kūrma Purana, 1.6; 1.9; 1.26). There may be more, but I need help in locating them. I would like to find when references to the Trimurti first appeared in Western literature and suspect that it may have had something to do with the Theosophical Society, but I am not familiar with their literature. Buddhipriya 17:10, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

just to let you guys no trimurti is sanskrit, in enlish it means three ways, because brahman and Shiva and vishnu are one

umm once again its me, trimurti is sanskrit

[edit] Another source for evolution of the concept

I have located another good source for evolution of the concept in The Cultural Heritage of India and will add some citations to it which are along the same lines of the other debunking material that has previously been added. We are now down to a fairly well-sourced but shorter article. I think we have enough material on the origin of the idea now so some adjustment to the sections will help get the new material in. Buddhipriya 19:06, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Redundancies

The introduction mentions the three persons, their names and roles multiple redundant times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul Murray (talk • contribs) 01:26, 27 May 2008 (UTC)