Talk:Trick deck

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This page exposes tools of the trade (stripper deck, Svengali deck) that magicians, including possibly professionals, use; while the rest of the article is well-written and neatly skirts around exposing the secret to the other effects, these bits of exposure should be removed.

This should not be merged into trick decks; I learned all of my early card force tricks with a regular deck.

As a magician, I don't think this should be merged into trick decks, although, honestly that's exactly what it is. The root of this item is "List of Magic tricks".

Buddpaul 19:53, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

I think that the Svangali Deck, Stripper Deck, Invisible Deck and Brainwave Deck should be merged into Trick Deck, considering that the individual articles for each are pretty short and after all, that's what they are. Crooked Deck and Miniature Deck should probably be added too for the same reason. Card forcing is more to do with sleight of hand than the deck itself. The forcing decks should be moved to the Trick Deck section in my opinion, but references to sleight of hand methods of forcing should remain in Card Force. Card Marking is difficult; it could go either way. There are some decks specially printed for the purposes of magic with special back designs. These I consider to be trick decks. On the other hand, taking a regular deck and marking it wouldn't really make it a trick deck in my mind; this sort of thing is more in the field of gambling and as such should remain in its own page. Maybe Trick Decks should mention it in summary but link to the other page for more details.

Jamiemlaw 23:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

I think the situation might be resolved with some attention to the structure of this main article. There should probably be sub-sections for each specific deck here. These couldbe grouped into higher level sub-sections for "forcing decks", "marked decks" and so on. If the material on any of the specific decks becomes substantial enough to warrant its own article then Wikipedia seems to have an established arrangement for that by having links out to "main articles" above an abstract in the parent article. GTrendall 21:33, 25 April 2007 (UTC)GTrendall

In my opinion, this article should try to focus on how the decks of cards are used, not how they work.

Jamiemlaw 16:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Marked Cards

Marked Cards points to a book which is not about trick decks. Tinus 22:55, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

It should also me noted that marked cards are in a whole category of their own. When a magician thinks of trick decks they are refering to decks like the Invisible deck, etc. In addition, someone who is researching marked decks probably would not think of using the key words "trick deck" if the are looking for information on marked cards.

Another reason not to merge marked cards with "trick deck" is that people who are trying to find out if someone is cheating them in a game of cards will more likely search under "card marking" or "marked cards" vs. trick deck. Most trrick decks can be found in "joke shops" like the "crooked deck" or cheap "stripper" decks. Conversly, marked cards may be used by the serious professional and not jokesters.

I support the merge into this article because experts call them trick decks. On Wikipedia you'll find most articles are named after the "correct" terminology. Often there will be a redirect pointing to that article for slang or layman terms. So "marked deck" could redirect here. MaxVeers 02:08, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I wonder what "experts" are being referred to...I have also been a magician and associated with magicians for over 40 years. While a layman may think of a marked deck as a "trick deck", it falls into a very different category of trick decks and should be kept separate. Much like a "square" is a specific type of "rectangle" people who want to know about squares....typically would not think to look under rectangle for information......Similarly, marked decks should not be assoctated with "real trick decks" like a Svengali Deck or stripper deck, etc. because they tend to be in a category of their own. Bold text