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[edit] Leave your changes please!

Please be sure to note your changes at the bottom of the editing box! :) Alphalife 04:56, 9 September 2005 (UTC)

Hey, theres lots of rumors that one day the MAX light rail will someday run over the I-205 bridge or I-5 bridge, should that be noted somewhere?

If you're talking to me, behind IP 67.160.146.193, I'm sorry :(. I do leave them at least sometimes, though... PS-if "wolfontrimet"==bus/train operator, you might want to go here--Jason McHuff 01:17, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Some other things (JM):

  • The changes I did include putting Molalla under "system in city that left TriMet" proof and changing some of the city links
  • The Rider Insider history is not biased. Both the Westside MAX tunnel and the articulated buses had major problems
  • Is the Fareless Square page still a stub? The only things missing I can think of are usage and destinations
  • While some lines had service every 15 mins in 1998, the "Frequent Service" brand is more recent
  • How about their old & new slogans/logos?
  • It is technically the Portland Mall
  • Garages? The fact that their admin bldg is where the old streetcar barn was?


Actually, I just love wolves. And TriMet. So I made my screen name "wolfontrimet". Are you a transit operator?

1) Good. I hadn't caught that.

2) I don't know where that came from.

There was a embedded comment about the Rider Insider history: <!-- given the source, it omits any setbacks or problems ... -->

3) I didn't know there was a fairless square page... but AJ Benjamin and I are going to begin working on a Transit Mall page.

Good idea...but its fareless

4) Yes, it is. But the amount of lines that had 15 minute service were very limited. I have all of the early bus schedules (dated to 98 or 99), and there were like 4 of them.

The thing is that the article (and TriMet) lists "Frequent Service" as starting in 1998. This is wrong; it should be started bus-every-15-min which became known as Frequent Service in 200x. Oh and '98 or '99 schedules are "recent". "Early" would be '70s :)

5) I think slogan changes are a GREAT idea. I know of a couple. "We're here to get you there." "How we get there matters" and "See where it takes you". I think there was 1 more... but I'd have to look it up as I can't remember it. That would probably be a good thing to add to the history section.

I have not heard of the first one, but I've only been back to Oregon for less than 10 years

6) Is what technically the Portland Mall?

5th & 6th Aves. Portland Mall is referenced on their revamp page (I say SUBWAY!) and on those signs on cross-streets. Another part is that I'd rather not have it refered to as the Portland Transit Mall

7) I think we ought to add Powell, Merlo, and Center garages.

You're well educated, stranger. Welcome to the Wikipedia TriMet group.

I added the date significance to the captions of your pictures. And I'm not as "well educated" as I'd like to be. I'd like to start my own transit site including digitizing their big drawerful of old schedules and maps. So far I've been reading their stories in the Oregonan archives

Alphalife 04:29, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Indented replies by Jason McHuff 19:01, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Fixed a broken C-TRAN link (it was written C-Tran, which Wikipedia marks as not existing). I would have preferred to leave the visible text as it was, and alias it to the upper-case form, but it made more sense to make it work and be consistant now, and worry about style some other time. (There were a few other things that looked out-of-place, but that was the only thing just blatantly impossible to have been intended the way it was.)

Suggestion: Not that long ago, there was reportedly an attempt by either the FBI or Homeland Security to pressure TriMet to abandon Fareless Square on security grounds. Obviously it didn't happen in the end, but it may warrant a brief mention (provided solid references can be found) as that would not be a routine event in TriMet's history.

ObTrivia: TriMet's ticket machines run on Windows 3.1 and are apparently produced in Europe. I have absolutely no idea whatsoever if this can be verified, or if there is anywhere in the page suitable for trivia quite as meaningless as this, but it's here on the discussion page if anyone wants to see what they can do with it.

I remember reading a Portland Tribune(?) article where someone was agast that people could just board a bus or train. Not that a fare is needed for an officer to check someone. As for the ticket machines, see Flikr.
Also, I am removing the critisim about the bus mall slowing travel times. While the Portland Mall can be slow-going due to passenger loading and traffic signal timing, I do not know what they could do to make it better. Furthermore, there are crosstown lines that avoid downtown and it will not necessarily be better in 2009 since buses are to wait for MAX trains. Jason McHuff 21:20, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I have found a Tribune article about a Fareless Sq-terrorism link. However, it doesn't appear to be the original article on the subject. Jason McHuff 08:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Logos

Please see [1] for use of TriMet's old logo, it states it is never to be used. Alphalife 17:10, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cities Served

TriMet serves the cities of Kelso and Boring. See line 84 - Kelso/Boring here.

TriMet also serves Sandy, Oregon as well, despite that they dropped out (like Wilsonville). TriMet serves 1 bus stop outside of it's service district at SE Kelso Rd & SE Bluff Rd. Go here, and type in Stop ID 485.

Alphalife 10:13, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Also see Stop 7124, well into Wilsonville (=outside of the district). However, this really doesn't qualify as serving Wilsonville; it merily goes there to turn around and to connect to SMART. And is Kelso actually a city? P.S: The MAX page is a mess. Jason McHuff 20:25, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Kelso is a city in SW Washington in Cowlitz County, about 50 mi N or Portland. However, Kelso, Oregon, is a community SE of Portland that I've seen mentioned on highway guide signs on US 26 on the way to Mt. Hood; however, I've never been there, so I don't know if it's just a wide place in the road or an actual community with some services. 4.243.206.185 19:13, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

FYI, I have been working on a page of Portland transit links and diagrams. I am hoping to soon turn it into a site with old photos, schedules, etc. It is somewhat inspired by [2]. Also, I am thinking about uploading the diagrams (and some new ones) to the commons. Jason McHuff 06:53, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] References

It will look better if a references section is added and in-line refs are converted to footnotes. Aboutmovies 03:15, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New Infobox

There's now a slick infobox. Woohoo! Alphalife (talk) 20:23, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Map at Picture Peer Review

FYI, I have sent my map that's in the article to Picture Peer Review. --Jason McHuff (talk) 05:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Criticisms section

I've begun destroying the criticisms section and merging it into the rest of the article. The article kinda sucks, so the article as a whole needs to be expanded while we work on removing the criticisms section. I'm not overjoyed with the changes I've made, so that's where you come in to throw in your wiki sense! Alphalife (talk) 18:43, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Comments wanted on MAX, Streetcar maps

I have made maps of the MAX Light Rail and Portland Streetcar systems and submitted them to Picture Peer Review. If anyone would like to, feel free to comment on them there. Thanks, Jason McHuff (talk) 01:31, 12 June 2008 (UTC)