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- 1 Constant reverts in Meteor, Me 262 and Comet articles
- 2 de Havilland Comet
- 3 WPAVIATION class=NA
- 4 Barnstar
- 5 1345
- 6 Need your opinion
- 7 XF-104
- 8 Your recent edits
- 9 Coordinate
- 10 Reeve Aleutian Airways
- 11 Mayday
- 12 737
- 13 A request for your consideration regarding CAT:AOTR
- 14 Signpost updated for January 2nd and 7th, 2008.
- 15 Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation
- 16 William Anderson (RAAF officer)
- 17 Orphan talk page
- 18 Greetings
- 19 Thanks for the welcome
- 20 Signpost updated for January 14th, 2008.
- 21 Types of Airports
- 22 Signpost updated for January 21st, 2008.
- 23 Hindenburg and Graf Zeppelin
- 24 Airco DH 5
- 25 A Sock attack
- 26 Signpost updated for January 28th, 2008.
- 27 Glider task force
- 28 1948 B-29 Lake Mead Crash
- 29 Signpost updated for February 4th, 2008.
- 30 Featured list removals
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- 32 WPAVIATION Outreach
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- 34 Watchlist...
- 35 Airport identification codes
- 36 AfD nomination of Duff Beer (The Simpsons)
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- 42 Meetup
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[edit] Constant reverts in Meteor, Me 262 and Comet articles
Thanks Trevor. Bzuk 2:43 14 February 2007 (UTC).
[edit] de Havilland Comet
-Sigh, some people never learn...Michael Shrimpton comment: (starting to repair BZuk's vandlaism, he really is aviation illiterate, seems impervious to reason.)Bzuk 17:48 15 February 2007 (UTC).
- Thank you again, that notice you have placed on the article will help eliminate the constant stream of additional unsupported and spurious commentary that complements the observations still present in the body of the material. BTW, Trevor, are you a writer yourself? I do need an article for our aviation trade journal on the trials and tribulations of an AirMed (MEDEVAC) pilot. Interested? Bzuk 21:53 15 February 2007 (UTC).
[edit] WPAVIATION class=NA
Hello.
I noticed you change WPAVIATION class to NA from Cat. I think it should stay as "Cat", but the template should be changed. The reason is that it fits into WP assessment categories and its easier to manage categories on that level. With NA it's impossible to distinguish category articles and other articles. Thank you! Solarapex 03:44, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- I noticed it here Category talk:Aerospace companies of the United States. Basically, it should fall into this directory Category:Articles by quality, if the template is developed correctly. There are categories for categories, lists, templates, etc. These categories also are used by different kind of bots. "NA" is usually used as the last resort. I'll change the template tomorrow (I did that for a couple of projects) and revert some of your changes if you don't mind. Solarapex 04:22, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
== brand new at this just thought I was looking for an encyclopedia - found that I was going to be a collaborator. I searched for [aerodyne] and found that the definition left something to be desired. So I drafted a proposal on the talk page. Don't know if asking you to take a look at it is the right answer but I saw that you had looked at it a few months ago and your name also indicates that you are a frequent article reviewer. Waafcdr 06:58, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Barnstar
I award you the
Aviation Barnstar in recognition of your knowledgeable contribution to aviation articles. -
Bzuk
Do you have a specific year in mind? More recent years would be far more difficult. Wrad (talk) 04:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
- Just wondered if you could help a bit with this article. There's a lot about scope, organization, maps, and images we're trying to sort out. Wrad (talk) 03:24, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Need your opinion
Hi, your name was dropped on my talk page--would you care to weigh in on this discussion? Thanks! Katr67 (talk) 20:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] XF-104
Hi Trevor, thanks for looking at the XF-104 article and adding corrections, I have been busy today adding a little text and many more inline refs. I am not entirely convinced by the use of 'first' and 'second' as headers, another editor did this, not sure if it is convention or if there is a better way. I am quite keen to help move some aviation articles up the quality ladder, we seem to hit opposition around the GA process. Cheers. Nimbus227 (talk) 13:50, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Trevor, could you have another look at this please, I did a lot of referencing work the day after your comments and must have forgotten about it. I believe that there is a ref in virtually every paragraph now. Cheers and thanks very much. I drive a DH82 Tiger Moth BTW, a bit slower than your machine! Nimbus227 (talk) 21:16, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- Wow, that was quick! Thanks very much. Nimbus227 (talk) 21:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Your recent edits
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[edit] Coordinate
Hi Trevor, I could do 'gliding' easily but I'm really not sure what needs to be done. There seems to be a pool of talent here (aircraft project) not quite knowing where it is going. We seem to have only one admin, the two Bills seem to lay down the policies?! Nimbus227 (talk) 03:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Reeve Aleutian Airways
Thanks for your comments. Re the photos, I've managed to get three photos of aircraft in Reeve Aleutian livery, but at the moment they are not free use photos. Am is discussion with the author about getting free use versions onto wikipedia. The photo of the Grumman Goose may be an ex-Reeve aircraft too. Other photos are used to illustrate the type of aircraft used. They will be replaced as and when I'm able to source and get permission to use photos of the actual aircraft involved. As for the variety of sources, that is a tricky one. Reeve Aleutian never was a large airline, so there isn't likely to be much else available apart from the Airliners magazine mentioned on this talk page, and I doubt that would add anything not already known. Mjroots (talk) 08:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC) P.S. N19906 is still at Anchorage as far as I know, if you're ever that way could you take a picture?
- Would you please take another look at the article now, I have aded more refs to the main text, hopefully fulfilling the last criterion for B status as shown on the list. Mjroots (talk) 11:29, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Mayday
Actually, what is preferred is Mayday (Air Crash Investigation, Air Emergency) as the same episodes are aired worldwide, but under different show names. WhisperToMe (talk) 16:30, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the invitation. I am very interested in the 737 article. In fact, it was about #4-5 in my mental list of articles to re-write. It can be potentially be made into a FA but needs some work. Archtransit (talk) 18:32, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- Where is the best place to put comments for the peer review articles, on their talk pages or on the peer review page? I tried to shuffle a table in the 737 article as an experiment but had big problems with the formatting so left it as it is. Nimbus227 (talk) 02:09, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] A request for your consideration regarding CAT:AOTR
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[edit] Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aviation
I don't know why you are changing the archiving settings. Your change will put some of the 2007 data into what I think you intend to be the 2008 archive. One of the options in the settings is to have a by year archive. If that is what you want, let me know and I'll revise the header to have this happen automatically. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
Hi mate, saw your assessment of this one. Not a lot on his personal life but what there is I've put into a 'later life' section so pls see if you think that satisfies the remaining B-class criterion... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 13:19, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Orphan talk page
Trevor, can you look in on Talk:Cessna Citation Sovereign? It's an orphan talk page, the history shows someone wants it saved?!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Canglesea (talk • contribs) 04:32, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Greetings
Just wanted to say thanks for all of the work you've done on WikiProject Aviation. I stumbled upon you after you added a couple of templates and categories I was working on to the project, specifically Template:Future airport expansion and Template:Future airport.
As a fellow pilot I appreciate all that you've done. --Ng.j (talk) 09:17, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Thanks for the welcome
Thanks for the welcome to Project Aviation. I'm still getting my toes wet and trying to avoid jumping in the deep end, but I love it. Travellingcari (talk) 15:25, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Types of Airports
You should discuss renaming categories on Wikipedia:CFD. Category:Types of Airports should not have been depopulated without a discussion. Or did I miss a discussion? Vegaswikian (talk) 20:16, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- Since it was deleted, it is kind of late. However if there are differences in the subcats, it might be a good idea to do a group nomination to move everything to a common format. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:37, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Hindenburg and Graf Zeppelin
HI Trev, I thought there was a separate provision for airship infoboxes? Can you check that? If a determination has been made to use an existing aircraft infobox then the LZ-127 Graf Zeppelin may also have to be changed. FWIW Bzuk (talk) 03:29, 28 January 2008 (UTC).
[edit] Airco DH 5
Your recent page move seems to have ignored the discussion which was proceeding at Talk:Airco DH 5 about the naming of the DH aircraft article pages. You also seem to have lost this talk page which is no longer attached to the Airco DH.5 article page. It would have been more useful if you had participated in the discussion which was trying to build a consensus, rather than unilaterally undertaking the page move. Could you please rectify the above issues. Thanks. -- MightyWarrior (talk) 17:39, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response. You'll see that I've moved the discussion to the project talk page as you suggested. After re-reading the discussion, I think I was coming to the conclusion that 'DH.5' was the best solution, but another editor (as he admitted) "bit the bullet" and moved the page to 'DH 5'. Unless any there's any further change in the consensus, using 'DH.n' is probably best for all the DH articles and text. There are a number of articles that use a different format, either 'DH n' or 'D.H.n' - do you concur that it would be better to make them all consistent with one agreed naming convention? -- MightyWarrior (talk) 23:46, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] A Sock attack
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[edit] Glider task force
Hi Trevor, did this task force die? Shame if it did. I feel a bit guilty as I could have helped a lot with this (instructor for almost 20 years) but I spend my time on the powered articles. Cheers Nimbus227 (talk) 22:20, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
- Roger that, I was just a bit worried for some strange reason.Nimbus227 (talk) 23:04, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] 1948 B-29 Lake Mead Crash
Hey thanks for the edit, any help is welcomed!Jon Holly (talk) 03:38, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Featured list removals
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[edit] WPAVIATION Outreach
Hi Trevor, I've been doing a bit of welcoming on the Aviation project recently. I've popped my name down for outreach co-ordinator and I'm very happy to do this. I was just wondering if you knew what the newsletter situation is, particularly with regard to delivery? Hope to work with you in the future. Wexcan Talk 20:12, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Watchlist...
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[edit] Airport identification codes
I had a question about the article Marshfield Municipal Airport (Massachusetts). I'm an aviation newbie, so I don't know much about airport identifiers. What is the difference between the identifier "GHG", which is the identifier that the National Weather Service uses, and "3B2" which appears in this article (and apparently is the FAA identifier)? Thanks. -RunningOnBrains 17:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] AfD nomination of Duff Beer (The Simpsons)
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[edit] Meetup
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