Talk:Trey Parker
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[edit] Personal Life
Isn't he married ? How come there is no info about his wife in the article ?
There is info about his wife, is his wife's name Ema or Emma though?
[edit] South Park Conservative
I don't know anybody, even among conservatives, that actually thinks this term is people who think the show has a primarily conservative. A "South Park Conservative" is basically someone who is more anti-liberal than pro-conservative (which certainly describes Trey Parker). There is a strong anti-liberal movement in this country right now, and South Park deserves come credit in inspiring some of that.
When asked "Who are the South Park conservatives", Brian Anderson, managing editor of City Journal magazine, the quarterly publication of the Manhattan Instititute, and the author of the book "South Park Conservatives: The Revolt Against Liberal Media Bias", replied:
"As I use the term loosely—the coinage “South Park Republican” is Andrew Sullivan’s, and had been written about by a web writer Stephen Stanton on Tech Central Station—it refers to an anti-liberal: someone who may not be traditionally conservative, especially concerning popular culture and censorship, but who looks at today’s Nancy Pelosi Left and is repulsed by it. In the book, I describe the rise of this anti-liberal, anti-PC attitude in a current of contemporary topical humor—South Park itself leading the way, Dennis Miller, the stand-ups Nick Di Paolo, Colin Quinn, and Julia Gorin, websites like Scrappleface, and so on. I found this attitude also characterized many of the college students I interviewed for SPC. Cranking Eminem on the I-pod while working on a GOP get-out-the vote effort, so to speak.
South Park is as funny as anything we’ve seen in popular culture. Conservatives take their lumps too on it, but there’s nothing new in that—topical comedy has regularly taken aim at conservatives and traditional values for decades. What’s weird and subversive about South Park is its mix of libertarianism and middle-American common sense. It has satirized hate-crime legislation, multiculturalism, abortion rights, radical environmentalism, anti-smoking campaigns, and scores of liberal celebrities. "
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- Lets get this straight, South Park is libertarian. Both liberals and conservatives need to stop claiming the show as theirs. Libertarianism is best described as being economically right and socially left, though this is a bit misleading. Economically, libertarianism is about as right as you can get, which supports no redistribution of wealth and no government involvment in business, and other traditionally 'right' fiscal policies (they are typically hush hush on their economic views, but the coffee episode in Season 4 confirms this). I would describle libertarians as more socially moderate then socially left, while they are typically pro-abortion, supportive of gay marriage, against aggresive foreign policies, and against government and religious interference in science, etc. but they are also against gun control, enviornmentalism, political correctness, immigration reform, anti-smoking laws, hate-crime legisltaion, affrimative action, etc. (don't have time to list them all) Almost every south park episode supports the argument that they are libertarian through and through, with the possible exception of the Wal-Mart episode. Even then, note that they said that if we want our small businesses to grow, we simply need to shop somewhere else. No evidence that they supported government interference in business. This, is still a very libertarian view on a solution to a monopoly problem. --Jtd00123 (talk) 04:39, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the above description of libertarianism is absolutely wrong. That was a description of the values of the American Libertarianism party, and as usual, American politics has it wrong. Libertarianism is the opposite of authoritarianism--it can be economically left OR right, just as authoritarianism can be. It is PURELY a social classification, and has no absolute economic properties.Fofe510 (talk) 19:12, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
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- Perhaps I should have been more specific. I am very aware what a libertarian is and that there are that libertarian doesn't neccessarily mean that you conform to the views of the American libertarian party. But, in the context of the show South Park, using the Nolan chart as a guide, I was clearly talking about the general tendencies of people that call themselves libertarians here in the US , the US libertarian pary, and their relation to the creators of this show. In general, libertarians in the US tend to be economically right and socially moderate(or left, depending on how you interpret it), which fit the views of Matt and Trey. (almost all of the issues I covered above are found in some way in South Park) There are of course exceptions. And American politics having libertarianism all wrong is clearly subjective. Many supporters of the US libertarian party take stances on issues that they feel will maximize individual liberty, and isn't that what libertarianism is all about? --Jtd00123 (talk) 06:43, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Trey's High School
Although it was a decade earlier, I grew up in the same area of Colorado, and went to the same schools that Trey did. When I read this line today about him going to school in Evergreen AND Fairplay it just didn't jibe with what I knew. In the first place the schools are over 80 miles apart and his family would have had to move from Jefferson County to Park County for a change of schools like this to occur. When I went to the net to try to clear this up I was amazed to learn just how many sites have used Wikipedia's entry for there bio's of Trey. The other main bio's that I found didn't even mention his schooling before college. So instead of continuing to spin my wheels I simply called the two schools concerned.
- The secretary at South Park H.S. (719-836-2007) had lived in Fairplay for 40 years (and worked at the school for 20) confirmed that he had not attended school there.
- The secretary at Evergreen H.S. (303-982-5140) also confirmed that he had spent all of his high school years there.
I am noting this here so that Wikipedia editors, and other users who come to this page and find that it isn't the same as the Wikipage quoted at other sites, will understand why this change was made. I think it illustrates both the pitfalls of the net, in that an error made can get repeated so often that there is almost no way to fix it in all the places that it needs to be fixed, AND the power of Wikipedia, wherein once the research has been conducted it can, at least, be fixed here without having to wait years for a new edition to be published.MarnetteD | Talk 02:46, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Scientology?
I can't find anything to verify the claim that Matt Stone or Trey Parker "...along with Isaac Hayes are well known members of the Church of Scientology". I can find plenty of references to Isaac Hayes being a scientologist, none for Matt Stone or Trey Parker. What is the basis for this claim?
I'm almost 100% positive that he is NOT a member...As he as been known to ridicule Scientology.
[edit] American History
According to the Team America article, he didn't do the American History film - this was something that Michael Moore implied falsely. Anyone know?
- Yes, there is a link to an interview in the note on the Team America article. It supports what the article says. --JGGardiner 20:05, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
They are obviously not saying as they done that episode which blatantly slagged scientology and all of its followers
[edit] Episode Writing
The article states, Parker and Stone will continue to write, direct and edit every episode of the show. Considering there have been numerous other writers credited with writing the show, this statement appears to be in error. David Hoag 17:11, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
- Parker has had sole writer and director credit on every episode for years. I don't have the information offhand, but I would take a guess that it's been about 4-5 years since another person has had either of those credits on the show. daleki 19:17, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
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- I checked TV.com and various writers and directors other than Parker were credited for seasons one through six. On seasons seven through nine, Parker had sole credit. Stone has not had a writing nor directing credit in years. So the sentence I quoted is indeed incorrect. It suggests no other writer nor director has received credit, which is incorrect, and it suggests Stone has received sole credit, which is incorrect. Also, per the DGA and WGA Minimum Basic Agreements, writing and directing credits cannot be contractually determined; the actual finished work product dictates who receives credit. So I would suggest changing the sentence to something like: Parker is expected to write, direct, and edit each episode for the next three years. We don't know if he has an exclusive "put deal" contract, so if he goes off to work on another movie, other writers and/or directors may step in to do the work on South Park. David Hoag 21:19, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Mormonism
There is repeated talk among Mormons and ex-Mormons that perhaps Trey Parker was at one point a Mormon. Unfortunately, there is no reliable information on this out there. Does anyone know for sure whether he was Mormon at some point? (Or was Matt Stone?) The only information about this seems to come from interviews in which Trey Parker notes that he grew up around Mormons (which makes sense in Colorado) and even dated one [1]. And one bio clearly states that Trey was never a Mormon (by baptism) [2]. Can anyone confirm this?
- I am watching Orgazmo right now. It is interesting that they've got many Mormon quirks in it, but it is so unlikely a scenario that these clues can't really be used to suggest that either Parker or Stone were Mormons. It appears more likely that his upbringing in the West exposed him to the Mormon culture. BUT this is all conjecture. I have not hard evidence to offer you. --Benn M. 08:57, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Necessity of "Miscellaneous Facts"
Is this section really necessary? How important is it that Parker has blue eyes or named his cat Jake, especially when the guy is known for his comedy? --buck 04:39, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
I agree, especially because they don't have sources, and for all we know could have just been made up. Bshbass 20:18, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Obviously the guy is hot so people want to know. If he was ugly no one would care —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.142.90.158 (talk) 06:31, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] trilingual?
It's obvious that trey speaks english. and i also know he can speak japanese. but i was watching the epsiode damien witht he comentary on, and both matt and trey said that they both speak fluent russian. and I thought they were joking but they were both really serious. so can they? does anybody know?
[edit] Stupid Link
Will someone please remove the link at the bottom? It goes to some nobody's blog, which in turn provides very little solid information and some obvious disinformation (he accuses Stone and Parker of racism for making the Arab characters "dark-skinned," for instance, which is rather incredible). Surely there's some other link to an article by someone either better-known or more competent. 70.112.100.91 23:17, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Birthplace
It says here Trey Parker was born in Auburn, Alabama. Can anyone confirm it?
http://movies.msn.com/celebs/celeb.aspx?c=203438
Also, how can he have been born in Manchester, England, and in Colorado?
[edit] Nickname
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- (hence the nickname "Trey": from the French très meaning "three") (**note: très in French is VERY; trois is three**)
Because as it says Trey is not French for 3. Is there any verification (source) that this is how he got the name 'Trey'? Ashmoo 07:10, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
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- This is an amusing error, as tres is three in spanish, pronounced 'trez', but in French it would indeed be pronounced 'trey'. har har har MynameisRoB 21:05, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Dude, trey is poker slang for Three. Also, just regular slang. It doesn't come from the French or Spanish.
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- His nickname is Trey because he is Randolph Sevin Parker III (Get it?) and his father Randolph Sevin Parker, Jr. Simon Bar Sinister (talk) 20:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Pro Life??
I removed him from the category of "Pro-Life Celebrities". Since when did he claim he was Pro-Life?! He's a Libertarian and they're usually always Pro-Choice! He even the reasonable students as being Pro Choice in "Chef Goes Nanners" and Cartman as Pro Life. Not to mention that he seemed to show that Stem Cell research can save a kid's life in "Kenny Dies". And although he portrayed Christopher Reeve as an abuser of Stem Cells, this was more of a parody then a Pro Life message.
- I personally think that South Park heavily implies that Matt and Trey are pro-life, but this is unverified, and they do say that the show doesn't always reflect their own moral stance.
- He's a Libertarian and they're usually always Pro-Choice!
Actually...I'm a staunch libertarian and I'm pro-life. --Rambone (Talk) 06:37, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
- Then you aren't a staunch libertarian. --68.58.50.143 03:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Who the hell are you to tell me what I am? Libertarians aren't blindly pro-choice, regardless of what your opinion on the matter is. Rambone (Talk) 16:06, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
- Fella. Libertarians are not to tell people what they should or should not do. If you oppose abortion to the extent where you're representing its prohibition, I really would not consider you a true libertarian. Mickeymacaroni 10:07, 12 April 2007 (CET)
Libertarians are against the illegalization of victimless crimes (drug use, prostitution, etc) and many disagree whether or not abortion is victimless. Pro-life libertarians view abortion as murder. Look at Ron Paul's positions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FernoKlump (talk • contribs) 03:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] B.S.
Please tell me where you got the information that most libertarins are pro choice. Next time, check your facts. And also i dont think a pro choice person would like the way they treat abortion in 901. They almost certainly lean pro life.And although he portrayed Christopher Reeve as an abuser of Stem Cells, this was more of a parody then a Pro Life message. Yeah right. They were mocking pro choice advocates.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_perspectives_on_abortion
Reply: Well, Libertarianism is based on the ideas of limited government intervention and they usually are against government interference in reproductive rights, like abortion. There are a few Pro Life Libertarians, but then again, there are Pro Life Democrats. It's a small minority of Libertarians that are pro-life. What I'm saying is they have had a few messages that may seem against abortion, but then again they have showed Stem Cell research as a good thing in "Kenny Dies". They cancel each other out. I'm not saying they're DEFINITLY NOT Pro Life, I'm just saying there is not enough evidence to prove it. Oh Yeah and sorry if I seemed a bit arrogant and rude to you in the section above. It was a bit unnessisary and immature.
I was kind of rude there too.Peace.
Could someone please remove and replace the extremely inappropriate, Hollywood-esque, picture of Trey Parker. I am sure he himself would not approve of it. Azgambo
This guy is super cute! Seriously! I'd no idea that such a handsome guy did the voice for such an ugly pervo as Cartman. Shandristhe azylean 08:44, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bio source
Is this bio practically copied verbatim from http://www.treyparker.info or the other way around?
[edit] Confusion
I'm a bit confused by the line "In addition to currently working on the tenth season of South Park, he is also a big fan of Spongebob Squarepants." I'm not quite sure of the relevency of the Spongebob part or what being a fan of Spongebob Squarepants has to do with working on another season of South Park...
- Agreed, so boldly removed.
[edit] Voice Acting
Do they digitally alter the pitch of Matt and Trey's voice for the South Park kids?
- Yes they do, It was shown in a behind the scene look at South Park on Nightline. Simon Bar Sinister (talk) 03:32, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Trey is NOT an agnostic
I removed the reference to him being agnostic. Matt Stone is agnsotic not Trey. Trey said in a recent interview that he believes in God and even said that he's religious. However, he said that he doesn't really believe in the stories that are in the Bible, Quran, etc. Rambone (Talk) 03:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Southpark repetitions
next to "Thats my Bush" was his roles in it: -co-creator, writer, executive producer,south park, south park , south park , south park, south park, south park theme composer and performer. Someone care to explain why the hell south park was repeated 6 times? Ether way I removed it. Toxic Ninja 20:28, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Not sure about the information "BASEketball reference in SP Passion of the Jew"
Its written in this article:
- Parker rips on himself in the South Park episode, The Passion of the Jew: Stan demands his money back after seeing the Passion of the Christ, saying he should be able to get his money back just like after he saw BASEketball. -
Stan does not refer to BASEketball in the episode ive seen. Maybe he did at first but it was edited later for some reason? Anyway someone maybe should check this information. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.152.119.79 (talk) 19:11, 22 February 2007 (UTC).
Watch the episode. Stan states after leaving the theatre with Kenny to get his money back from Mel Gibson that "this is just like the time when we saw BASEketball."
[edit] Depression?
The part of the article discussing his "depression and alcoholism" offers no external links and an informal tone. In particular, the statement "he is often seen incoherent and drunk". This seems rather inflammatory. If no source interview can be provided, it should be deleted. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 150.250.207.167 (talk) 22:45, 6 April 2007 (UTC).
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- The recent interview was an article in the magazine Rolling Stone. However, there was no mention of depression, nor any reference to his being "often seen incoherent and drunk". Agreed, the section should be removed. --Pgva 02:00, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
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- I read the article. Trey Parker talked a lot about how he loves drinking and how his wife thinks he's a more fun person when he's drinking. There was nothing about his drinking leading to depression. He actually discussed that he prefers to drink every day because of how much he enjoys drinking. Leopold Stotch 05:16, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
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- He went into a state of deep depression after finding out his wife-to-be was cheating on him (with a friend,I think).Go to the official Cannibal the musical website. It explains it there in the production notes section. And if iit's been deleted, it should be put back up, because it is true.--Swellman 03:57, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
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- Sorry Swellman, but you are wrong. The Cannibal the Musical story took place in 1992 AND notes that he came out of that depression after one month. What you say should be "put back up" here is the suggestion that he is depressed currently, in 2007. --Pgva 19:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
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- So? It's still notable that he went into a state of deep depression during that time. And I never said that he still was depressed. I'm just saying that it's notable to put that his wife-to-be cheated on him and that he was depressed for a long while after that. And i'm pretty sure it was more than one month. I'll have to look it up again.--Swellman 21:15, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Heterophobic
Is it true that he is heterophobic? El Chompiras 17:32, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- What does that mean? He's married with a wife you know.142.161.64.90 (talk) 10:22, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Libertarianism
At one point, this wikipedia entry noted that Trey was a registered Libertarian. Why was this removed? It's in the categories, but I thought it was worth mentioning in the article because his political beliefs are a major part of South Park, Team America, etc. --71.236.20.221 05:12, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Giant Monsters Attack Japan!
I've created an article for Matt and Trey's upcoming film, Giant Monsters Attack Japan!. It is in need of expert editing. If you want to help improve the article, you can discuss it on the talk page. Thank you.--Swellman 03:49, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Birthname
Randolph Severn "Trey" Parker III I think "Trey" shouldn't be here because he adopted this name later —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.85.133.66 (talk) 15:54, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Musical work
Just wondering why there is no mention of DVDA, the band he and Matt Stone are part of, on any of the sections in this article? ~ Brother William 00:58, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Image
I got another image for Trey Parker. The other one didn't seem to look like him.--Jasper1066 (talk) 17:58, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Atheism
First, I think it is somewhat misleading to quote his views from the interview about atheism; this makes Trey sound PARTICULARLY against atheism, when he's noted for being mostly against any established religion in general (although he finds them fascinating). While he's not an admitted agnostic, the section on religious belief should be more ambiguous, since that one quote from Nightline is not representative of his body of work, and there are other quotes from him criticizing other religions which aren't shown in the section.
Secondly, according to the South Park Season 10 commentary on the episode "Go God Go" (Part 1), he is more sympathetic to atheism than the earlier interview suggested. Matt says in the commentary that when Penn Jillette contacted and explained atheism to him in a less whiny tone than the way Dawkins wrote most of his notorious material, it was much easier to understand, learn, and support. While this was Matt speaking, Trey mutters 'yeah' a couple of times and generally seems to feel the same way, mentioning Penn a couple times elsewhere in the commentary mini for the episode. 71.188.171.104 (talk) 23:19, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
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- I don't think Trey is anti-atheist anymore then he is anti-religious, which is he finds quirks in both, but generally doesn't have any real hatred towards. I would like to add that the Super Best Friends episode doesn't support that he is "against" organized religion (would a person against organized religion have a message that says that we can find something good in every religion?), and the later imaginationland episode again shows the fascination with religion. Could you provide a quote showing the Trey is against religion? From looking at their shows, they do seem to be against some hiarchical religions, such as Catholics and scientologists, However,the upper echelons are usually the ones attacked, and even then they aren't always portrayed as evil. For example, the Pope in the Easter special was portrayed as naive, and so were much of the high ranking scientologists, but certainly not evil the way they portray some other groups (if Dawkins wrote fiction). Religious extremists are also attacked (Muslim terrorists), but are not portrayed as representing the religion in general. Other then that, Trey doesn't seem to be against most organized religions. Followers of orgainzed religion are generally portrayed as naive and clueless , but never evil the way some other groups are portrayed (such as the tolerance police, anti-smokers, environmentalists(???, never really got South Parks beef with this group, but this must have something to do with their libertarian background). --Jtd00123 (talk) 04:01, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
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[edit] Someone Rickrolled trey
if you haven't noticed alread trey's biography has been rickrolled. who would do such a thing??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goten677 (talk • contribs) 15:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Canada
Ok, what is it with these guys Trey and Matt and Canada?
Working in student exchanges, 30 years ago most of these kids didn't even know where Canada was. Today they all know and even want to go there, thinking its a nice place and people.
They're both born and raised in the US right?
So what's with them and Canada? Befuddler (talk) 09:54, 18 May 2008 (UTC)